WSOP hypothetical question (not about AA)
On teh day of the WSOP2006 Main Event, which you have a seat into you are invited into a HUGE cash games, 100/200 NL full of nothing but the juciest fish you've ever seen, if you can't afford the bankroll someone will stake you and let you keep the profits, the game will be going for hte full 2 weeks the WSOP is on.
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did I buy into the ME or win a sattelite?
I'd just sell the tourny seat and play in the cash game. |
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If they are truly as fishy as you say, I truly keep all my profits, and it goes for the full two weeks, then this is super easy cash game choice.
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Obviously not. If you want it to be a close decision, say you already made it to day 2 with a lot of chips or something.
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Yeah, there's always next year....make it a tougher decision like TME said...like say you are 20 off the bubble and you are slightly above average stacked.
What's the max buy in at the NL game? |
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Huge profit to be made off the cash game, and the probability of profiting is much higher than profiting off a 5000+ person tournament. Throwing in the fact that someone will stake you with no cut on profits, what's there even to discuss?
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Obviously the cash game has a far higher EV than the ME, but I think the OP is looking for the point at which the thrill of playing in the world's most famous poker tournament overcomes strictly EV decisions. I play poker for fun and for profit, but it's not an important source of income, so I'd play in the ME. I'd feel like I passed up more than an overlay; being in the ME is participating in poker history. Cash games are everywhere, but there will only be one 2006 ME.
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But by playing in the cash game, you can play in the 2007-20xx Main Events...
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I go to the main event and play very, very LAG poker to see if I can build up a big stack. When I bust out, I go to the cash game.
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But by playing in the cash game, you can play in the 2007-20xx Main Events... [/ QUOTE ] Sure. It was hypothetical, so I just figured the scenario was limited to this decision. Seems that the OP wanted to look at this as a not strictly EV scenario. |
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[ QUOTE ] But by playing in the cash game, you can play in the 2007-20xx Main Events... [/ QUOTE ] Sure. It was hypothetical, so I just figured the scenario was limited to this decision. Seems that the OP wanted to look at this as a not strictly EV scenario. [/ QUOTE ] If it really is the worst players in the world and the game goes for 2 weeks straight, you would have to have some [censored] luck to not make 6 figures profit. If someone offered you a check for $100,000+ to not play in the tournament, would you refuse that? |
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If it really is the worst players in the world and the game goes for 2 weeks straight, you would have to have some [censored] luck to not make 6 figures profit. If someone offered you a check for $100,000+ to not play in the tournament, would you refuse that? [/ QUOTE ] I suppose not. It all depends on the potential profit of the game, so you guys are right, at six digits it's not close, but if my expected profit were closer to $25,000, I think I'd stick with the ME. Maybe I've misread it, but I thought OP was after the "experience" factor as well as the overlay, and for me at least, the experience factor is pretty high. |
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nope
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You could spice it up by saying your table at the WSOP would consist of 9 Aaron Kanter clones.
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then that would be the Tournament of Champions
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id still pick the main event.
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the cash game
it's definitely not remotely close! |
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I go to the main event and play very, very LAG poker to see if I can build up a big stack. When I bust out, I go to the cash game. [/ QUOTE ] Best of both worlds. |
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i always choose to get staked. this is the definite choice.
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On teh day of the WSOP2006 Main Event, which you have a seat into you are invited into a HUGE cash games, 100/200 NL full of nothing but the juciest fish you've ever seen, if you can't afford the bankroll someone will stake you and let you keep the profits, the game will be going for hte full 2 weeks the WSOP is on. Do you go to the main event? [/ QUOTE ] I don't know. It's a real tough decision. If I ever find myself in that situation, I'll ponder a decision. |
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did I buy into the ME or win a sattelite? [/ QUOTE ] grammer deficit. [ QUOTE ] I'd just sell the tourny seat and play in the cash game. [/ QUOTE ] Selling the seat instead of blinding off and losing 10K is a wise decision. Well thought out. |
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If they are truly as fishy as you say, I truly keep all my profits, and it goes for the full two weeks, then this is super easy cash game choice. [/ QUOTE ] Just imagine the smell of all those fish though......can you take it for 2 weeks? |
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Obviously not. If you want it to be a close decision, say you already made it to day 2 with a lot of chips or something. [/ QUOTE ] Now we're bringing a higher level of thought to the thread. Can we handle it? |
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Yeah, there's always next year....make it a tougher decision like TME said...like say you are 20 off the bubble and you are slightly above average stacked. What's the max buy in at the NL game? [/ QUOTE ] You're being bankrolled, so who cares? Are you sure you can handle the tougher problem? |
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Huge profit to be made off the cash game, and the probability of profiting is much higher than profiting off a 5000+ person tournament. Throwing in the fact that someone will stake you with no cut on profits, what's there even to discuss? [/ QUOTE ] Beats me. |
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Obviously the cash game has a far higher EV than the ME, but I think the OP is looking for the point at which the thrill of playing in the world's most famous poker tournament overcomes strictly EV decisions. I play poker for fun and for profit, but it's not an important source of income, so I'd play in the ME. I'd feel like I passed up more than an overlay; being in the ME is participating in poker history. Cash games are everywhere, but there will only be one 2006 ME. [/ QUOTE ] And maybe, just maybe, you'll get to sit next to Phil Ivey. Wouldn't that be cool [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] |
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But by playing in the cash game, you can play in the 2007-20xx Main Events... [/ QUOTE ] Can't pull the wool over your eyes. You're a smart one. |
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I go to the main event and play very, very LAG poker to see if I can build up a big stack. When I bust out, I go to the cash game. [/ QUOTE ] Your bad. That's not an option. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] But by playing in the cash game, you can play in the 2007-20xx Main Events... [/ QUOTE ] Sure. It was hypothetical, so I just figured the scenario was limited to this decision. Seems that the OP wanted to look at this as a not strictly EV scenario. [/ QUOTE ] If it really is the worst players in the world and the game goes for 2 weeks straight, you would have to have some [censored] luck to not make 6 figures profit. If someone offered you a check for $100,000+ to not play in the tournament, would you refuse that? [/ QUOTE ] That depends on whether the check is certified or not. Nice try with the trick question. |
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[ QUOTE ] If it really is the worst players in the world and the game goes for 2 weeks straight, you would have to have some [censored] luck to not make 6 figures profit. If someone offered you a check for $100,000+ to not play in the tournament, would you refuse that? [/ QUOTE ] I suppose not. It all depends on the potential profit of the game, so you guys are right, at six digits it's not close, but if my expected profit were closer to $25,000, I think I'd stick with the ME. Maybe I've misread it, but I thought OP was after the "experience" factor as well as the overlay, and for me at least, the experience factor is pretty high. [/ QUOTE ] How in the world did you come with only a 25K profit, playing a table full of fish in a 100/200 game? |
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nope [/ QUOTE ] "nope" to what? |
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You could spice it up by saying your table at the WSOP would consist of 9 Aaron Kanter clones. [/ QUOTE ] So, you want to wait until the cloning of humans has been invented? |
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then that would be the Tournament of Champions [/ QUOTE ] And we'd start each day with the Breakfast of Champions? |
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id still pick the main event. [/ QUOTE ] Of course you would. A few autographs and the memories of sitting at the tables with some of the popular pros, far outweighs the $$ to be won in the cash game. |
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the cash game it's definitely not remotely close! [/ QUOTE ] Well......that's it then. The Veteran has spoken. The cash game it is! |
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[ QUOTE ] I go to the main event and play very, very LAG poker to see if I can build up a big stack. When I bust out, I go to the cash game. [/ QUOTE ] Best of both worlds. [/ QUOTE ] If it sounds too good to be true, it is. It's not an option. Let's work on our reading comprehension skills. |
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i always choose to get staked. this is the definite choice. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know man. Christ those nails hurt. |
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[ QUOTE ] I go to the main event and play very, very LAG poker to see if I can build up a big stack. When I bust out, I go to the cash game. [/ QUOTE ] Your bad. That's not an option. [/ QUOTE ] Why? I see nothing in the original post about the cash game barring someone from sitting in after the ME has begun. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I go to the main event and play very, very LAG poker to see if I can build up a big stack. When I bust out, I go to the cash game. [/ QUOTE ] Best of both worlds. [/ QUOTE ] If it sounds too good to be true, it is. It's not an option. Let's work on our reading comprehension skills. [/ QUOTE ] No. *You* work on those skills. Show me where this - On teh day of the WSOP2006 Main Event, which you have a seat into you are invited into a HUGE cash games, 100/200 NL full of nothing but the juciest fish you've ever seen, if you can't afford the bankroll someone will stake you and let you keep the profits, the game will be going for hte full 2 weeks the WSOP is on. Do you go to the main event? Says I *must* enter the cash game at a specific time? |
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The cash game...and I'd use my winnings to play in the '07 WSOP.
Plus...I'd never fold AA on the first hand of the cash game. But I would in the Main Event. |
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