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suited_ace 10-12-2005 11:40 PM

Now what?
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter

SB (t860)
Hero (t925)
UTG (t790)
UTG+1 (t257)
MP1 (t1560)
MP2 (t978)
MP3 (t405)
CO (t790)
Button (t1435)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, UTG+1 calls t50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t225</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t790 (All-In)</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, Hero ?

This was a $22, no specific reads. I've been playing around with how much I raise PF in these situations (too many limpers in lvl3), this was a lot more than my standard raise in this spot.

Karak567 10-12-2005 11:47 PM

Re: Now what?
 
IF you are going to make a standard raise preflop, t300 is the right thing, in that case, I just shove here with all those limpers in lieu of a raise.

That said, you need to call this all in and expect to see AQ, AK or a low pocket pair.

proell 10-12-2005 11:53 PM

Re: Now what?
 
with ~t450 in the pot it is impossible to fold. You're probably a dog to a pair, but you have odds to call this.
Occassionally you will see AA/KK here, but I don't think it is often enough to make this a fold.

10-12-2005 11:54 PM

Re: Now what?
 
Make the call.

Gramps 10-12-2005 11:58 PM

Re: Now what?
 
Push PF. If everyone folds, you increase your stack about 20%, and of the times you're called (even factoring in the occassional trap with AA/KK), you're still a good favorite with an overlay. Raising less and getting called with your stack size just makes things difficult postflop.

10-13-2005 12:05 AM

Re: Now what?
 
Is there an arguement for a check here? A raise will likely get it HU but could also lead to a multiway pot.

Either way, were whiffing 2/3s and playing OOP. Is this enough to justify playing passively?

After the reraise I think hero should call for reasons stated above.

10-13-2005 12:18 AM

Re: Now what?
 
I think fold. I think the call was just waiting for the raise. It's prime time to be making a move I put him on at least QQ. Maybe I'm just over estimating the players at party 22. I still think it's best to be the one pushing instead of calling a push.

Bigwig 10-13-2005 12:20 AM

Re: Now what?
 
I either raise a little less, or shove em all-in preflop. Regardless, you have to call this all-in.

EDIT--Wait, you're in the BB. You have two options, IMO. All-in, or check. Raising a proper amount here without pushing puts you in a horrible spot postflop. Out of position with a pot size ~ the size of your stack with AK.


Karak567 10-13-2005 12:21 AM

Re: Now what?
 
Folding to this push is so bad it makes me want to puke.

You HAVE to call.

But I would have just pushed preflop right away.

lacky 10-13-2005 12:25 AM

Re: Now what?
 
you realize there is about 1160 in the pot, and it is costing you about 550 to call? If you fold AK, or any other premium hand here you will never do well at sng's. HUGE leak.

Steve


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