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12-21-2005 12:05 PM

i feel like i should fold, but i don\'t with AA
 
How do you guys approach this?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button ($192)
SB ($320.15)
BB ($216.25)
UTG ($95.90)
Hero ($194)
CO ($372.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, Button calls $15, BB calls $15.

Turn: ($70) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $40</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $80</font>, Hero calls $40.

River: ($230) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB calls $113.25 (All-In), Hero calls $91 (All-In).

Final Pot: $434.25

Bukem_ 12-21-2005 12:11 PM

Re: i feel like i should fold, but i don\'t with AA
 
Flop bet too small.

12-21-2005 12:12 PM

Re: i feel like i should fold, but i don\'t with AA
 
does anyone push turn here?

as played, i think you have to call the river. even if you lose over 50% of the time, you should win more than 25% of the time.

Hattifnatt 12-21-2005 12:14 PM

Re: i feel like i should fold, but i don\'t with AA
 
Bet more on the flop.

I would probably fold to the turn min-raise. If you play, push turn instead of just call the min-raise.

Voltron87 12-21-2005 12:17 PM

Re: i feel like i should fold, but i don\'t with AA
 
I hate these spots against unknowns, if you have QQ or the opponent is tight they are pretty foldable but if you have AA and its against unknown/looseys it isn't so clear, sometimes you will stack off and think "god i am dumb" and sometimes thing will show you some stupid crap like JJ.

Leptyne 12-21-2005 12:39 PM

Re: i feel like i should fold, but i don\'t with AA
 
Pot the flop. On the turn raise I don't believe calling is an option considering pot/stack sizes. there is no way you're getting away on the river so push the turn. Be a bettor not a caller.

GrunchCan 12-21-2005 12:51 PM

Re: i feel like i should fold, but i don\'t with AA
 
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I don't believe calling is an option considering pot/stack sizes. there is no way you're getting away on the river so push the turn

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Is folding to the turn minraise a viable option?

12-21-2005 12:57 PM

Re: i feel like i should fold, but i don\'t with AA
 
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I don't believe calling is an option considering pot/stack sizes. there is no way you're getting away on the river so push the turn

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Is folding to the turn minraise a viable option?

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You have basically no chance to improve, and it looks like villain is pushing river. if you think you are beat and can't call river bet then why call miniraise on turn?

Leptyne 12-21-2005 01:48 PM

Re: i feel like i should fold, but i don\'t with AA
 
I think folding to the raise is the better option. I try to follow TAFKAn's Rule of Thumb which says treat all players as if they are a pussy. They will only make this play with the nuts, until you see them do otherwise.

GrunchCan 12-21-2005 01:57 PM

Re: i feel like i should fold, but i don\'t with AA
 
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I try to follow TAFKAn's Rule of Thumb

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I'm unfamiliar with this. Got a link?


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