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Entity 12-04-2005 02:14 AM

A preflop question
 
Multitabling 16/10 TAG raises UTG in a 9-handed game. Folded to you in MP1. You've got 88.

You...

tpir90036 12-04-2005 02:20 AM

Re: A preflop question
 
16/10, yuck, sounds like my weak-ass stats.

Anyway, if they are multitabling they might not have a good enough read to interpret your coldcall for exactly what it is. But they also might be more willing to give up if you 3-bet them and they miss....but your hand is not all that hot vs. their range. I need to think about this more. I know what I would do, but I think it's way wrong. And I am not sure why what I wrote was centered around the multitabling aspect so much.

shemp 12-04-2005 02:29 AM

Re: A preflop question
 
Since they are utg that typically means far fewer raises than their average of 10%. At around 5.5%, they are raising 99+, AJs+, and AQo+ -- ie, half their hands are bigger pairs, and the other half are overs. The blinds and looseness of other people does matter...

B Dids 12-04-2005 03:17 AM

Re: A preflop question
 
I think I fold unless I have a really good reason not to (like the whole table will coldcall behind me). Like shemp says- pretty basic hand range thinking means you're assed out here a lot.

bakku 12-04-2005 03:23 AM

Re: A preflop question
 
holy crap muck

12-04-2005 03:43 AM

Re: A preflop question
 
a lot of other things must be taken into consideration here, how likely he is to fold postflop if he has overs and misses, how likely he is to fold JJ if AK hit, how many lags are behind you, etc, etc.... I make use of all three of these plays, but cold call very rarely and only to change up play from time to time

shemp 12-04-2005 03:53 AM

Re: A preflop question
 
[ QUOTE ]
how likely he is to fold JJ if AK hit,

[/ QUOTE ]

Gangsta.

Cold-calling in the hopes of knocking him of JJ on AK boards is daft. Gangsta, but daft.

He has at least an A or K in close to 60% of his hands and the remainder are big pairs, the kind of hands people are loathe to fold against people given to such silly enterprises.

CardSharpCook 12-04-2005 04:33 AM

Re: A preflop question
 
Yo. Gangsta! 3bet that shiznit, Killa!

(just kidding) It is a fold of course.

12-04-2005 06:30 AM

Re: A preflop question
 
would u consider this a clear fold if it were on the button and it was folded around after the raise, and what about on the button w/ another cold caller?

sfer 12-04-2005 12:31 PM

Re: A preflop question
 
What about 99. What if he's 16/8 and you have TT?


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