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12-30-2005 01:44 AM

Overzelous?
 
Villain is an animated copy of HFAP: a solid TAG, very straightforward, and not particularily creative. He defends his BB about 55% of the time.

I'm dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the CO, 5 handed. 1 fold, I raise, button and SB fold, villain calls in the BB and we're HU.

Flop: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Villain checks, I bet, Villain raises, I call.

Turn: J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Villain bets, I raise, Villain 3 bets, I call.

River: A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Villain bets, I fold.


How'd I do on the flop? On the turn I believe that he'll now fold any 3, 4, or underpair. How'd I do? How about the river?

Wierd hand for me. Deviates from a lot of stuff I normally practice. Bad things tend to happen when I "think too much" [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Entity 12-30-2005 01:47 AM

Re: Overzelous?
 
I fold to the flop c/r. When I don't, I don't raise the turn because I can't fold to a 3-bet.

River fold seems ok.

Rob

StellarWind 12-30-2005 05:03 AM

Re: Overzelous?
 
Wow, you invested 5 BB in this hand, never had a draw better than a gutshot, and folded a pair of aces for one bet on the river.

So much money, so little accomplished.

Reasonable plan #1: Say "I trust you" and fold to the flop checkraise. He could have 65 of course but that's life.

Reasonable plan #2: Call the checkraise. Say "cool, more outs" and call the turn. Say "awesome, an ace" and call the river.

I'm sure our animated Villain would adopt one of those plans in your place.

Calling the turn is cheap and provides value for money:

1. Four gutshot outs.

2. Six more outs to a hand that will often win.

3. A chance that he will misguess with a semibluff hand and miss the river bet.

Investing 1-2 more bets may allow you to fold a small pair but:

1. How likely is he to have that hand relative to the money you are investing?

2. You already have ten outs versus most of those hands.

3. He may not fold a small board pair because he doesn't believe you or because he wants to try the combo shot of drawing to a 5-outer and hoping you will check the river with a big ace. The pot odds are clearly there if his kicker is clean.


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