Have I taken this folding thing too far?
 

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t775)
SB (t785)
BB (t1970)
UTG (t775)
MP1 (t1395)
MP2 (t1835)
CO (t465)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t15, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t45</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls t45, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t125</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t770 (All-In)</font>, MP1 folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1000

Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
 

I don't think so, I think on this drawless flop you're usually hosed at the $30s after the 3-bet all-in.

Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
 

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I don't think so, I think on this drawless flop you're usually hosed at the $30s after the 3-bet all-in.

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I was thinking that a call might have been better afterward. But I think I kind of like the raise.

Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
 

I play the hand like you did, but I call on the end. I think he has a worse J a lot. He wouldn't play a set that fast in the 800 chippers, and the same is usually true of two pair... he would however play JT that fast...

Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
 

Wait couldn't SB reraise like this with any jack and a pocket pair less than jacks in addition to his 2 pair/set? I would call in this spot. If you're not going to call here and bust the donks who reraise any jack, why did you bother playing AJ in the first place?

Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
 

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Wait couldn't SB reraise like this with any jack and a pocket pair less than jacks in addition to his 2 pair/set? I would call in this spot. If you're not going to call here and bust the donks who reraise any jack, why did you bother playing AJ in the first place?

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The thing I hate about this situation is that the aggressor comes from the blinds. Had it been another, I'd be more inclined to call. Or, maybe this thinking is wrong.

Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
 

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t775)
SB (t785)
BB (t1970)
UTG (t775)
MP1 (t1395)
MP2 (t1835)
CO (t465)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t15, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t45</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls t45, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t125</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t770 (All-In)</font>, MP1 folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1000

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Nice laydown Scuba. I would've donked this up. Why is it I feel I'm moving further and further from solid post flop play?

On a positive note, something I'm trying to get better at, villains hand pf, any 2, post flop, duh, set or 2 pair.

Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
 

I like this post because personally, i think TPTK gets you in trouble a lot. I think a lot of the problem in this forum is everyone seems to think you MUST extract the max in EVERY situation. That is simply not true. I dont mind folding the best hand if I think I can find a better place later on and i have a healthy stack. Maybe a better question to help you deal with this is how did the rest of this sng turn out. I have been in situations like this where i let it go, and every once in a while i even let it go when i leave myself shortstacked, but i come back and win the sng. sometimes, discretion is the better part of valor.

How did the rest of this sng play out?

Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
 

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Nice laydown Scuba.

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Well, it helps that I have this huge aversion to AJ. LOL

Re: Have I taken this folding thing too far?
 

Um, this is a bad fold. Villain has a worse J here a very large % of the time.

Think about this, if he had a monster on this RAGGGGY board, why would he lead? I would be much more happy with folding if he had checkraised you.

I think this is a HORRIBLE fold. People are giving away their money during the early levels, and you should be making these calls with TPTK all day on such a nice flop.