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mike l. 11-09-2005 05:43 PM

wizards/clippers tonight
 
im pretty sure the wizards will handle the clippers in washington. am i wrong?

11-09-2005 05:49 PM

Re: wizards/clippers tonight
 
Two things to consider: (1) Antonio Daniels is out for the Wizards, to be replaced by Jarvis Hayes, and (2) Maggette might be back tonight for LAC. The Clippers have played pretty well without him.

sublime 11-09-2005 06:07 PM

Re: wizards/clippers tonight
 
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am i wrong?

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i hope so [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

TheRover 11-09-2005 06:14 PM

Re: wizards/clippers tonight
 
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under also plz

Hmm. I got under 186.5 at -129. I wonder if I should try to middle this.

sublime 11-09-2005 06:20 PM

Re: wizards/clippers tonight
 
Hmm. I got under 186.5 at -129. I wonder if I should try to middle this.

why, do you think over 182.5 is a good play?

TheRover 11-09-2005 06:30 PM

Re: wizards/clippers tonight
 
No, not really. I'm just wondering out loud so to speak.

sublime 11-09-2005 07:18 PM

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No, not really. I'm just wondering out loud so to speak.

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if you dont think over 182.5 is a good play, then you dont go for the 'middle'. what ends up happening is this. lines that move for you (like this one) have a greater chance of winning than plays that move against you, or not at all. if you try and 'middle' your good plays, you suck up all the EV in those and remain on the coinflips at full price.

of course, if you think there is value in the over 182.5 then its a independent +EV bet and the chance to catch a middle is just an added bonus.

ElSapo 11-09-2005 07:29 PM

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that move for you (like this one) have a greater chance of winning than plays that move against you, or not at all.

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Hey Sublime,

Can you explain this a bit more?

ElSapo

sublime 11-09-2005 09:09 PM

Re: wizards/clippers tonight
 
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that move for you (like this one) have a greater chance of winning than plays that move against you, or not at all.

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Hey Sublime,

Can you explain this a bit more?

ElSapo

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look at it from a pure marketplace perspective. he 'bought' the under at 188 and its now selling at 182, giving him a boatload of value. people often oversimplify (or ironically, over complicate)sports betting into saying its all about picking winners. now, of course you need to pick more winners than losers to make money. however, in reality you are trying to beat the market. the same way a day trader at home does etc.

example:

this weekends game between SD and NYJ. the market was dealing a 6/6.5 everywhere. i found a 7 -110 on the jets, now despite having zero opinion on the game, i am forced (as a +EV bettor) to take NYJ +7.

i hope that makes sense, i am probably not good at explaining this stuff.

DougOzzzz 11-09-2005 10:30 PM

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am i wrong?

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yes


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