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EricW 11-25-2005 07:33 PM

LSU/SEC homers
 
It's safe to say that LSU is the best team of the SEC. The game against Arkansas really showed how powerful the SEC is. I've seen lots of comments about how PAC10 teams and namely USC would not be able to do as well if they were in the SEC. Well... considering that the best team in the SEC barely beat Arkansas, at home mind you (19-17) whereas USC beat Arkansas 70-17, I'd say that the SEC is just a tad over-rated this year [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

tdarko 11-25-2005 07:51 PM

Re: LSU/SEC homers
 
i will agree that LSU would have almost no chance against USC but comparing scores is arbitrary b/c of playing styles.

LSU's defense is stout but there offense struggles to move the chains, so they obviously are always going to play close games no matter the opponent whereas USC, a team that is explosive has the potential to blowout any team any day.

the other side of that coin is that if USC were to play LSU, LSU would contain USC for a little while but in the end USC would overmatch them but it wouldn't be a blowout.

comparing scores is part of the reason i hate the BCS. scores against teams have nothing to do with teams that haven't played each other and there has been proof of that in the past.

11-25-2005 07:57 PM

Re: LSU/SEC homers
 
Margain of victoy was elminated from the BCS years ago.

tdarko 11-25-2005 08:04 PM

Re: LSU/SEC homers
 
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Margain of victoy was elminated from the BCS years ago.

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not really what i was talking about. what your opponents (that you already have defeated) do against other teams the rest of the season effects your ranking correct?

lastchance 11-25-2005 08:40 PM

Re: LSU/SEC homers
 
Well, for the Computer Rankings, and this is smart. A 10-1 team in the Big Ten should get more respect than a 10-1 team in the Big East. And comparing previous victories based on how good we thought they were in Week 1, instead of how good we know they are now is pretty dumb.

rwperu34 11-25-2005 11:17 PM

Re: LSU/SEC homers
 
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LSU's defense is stout.... if USC were to play LSU, LSU would contain USC for a little while but in the end USC would overmatch them but it wouldn't be a blowout.

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Just like Oklahoma last year, right?

lastchance 11-25-2005 11:49 PM

Re: LSU/SEC homers
 
That's a bad example. Last year's SC team had a very good defense, while this year's SC defense is best described as "mediocre."

11-26-2005 12:58 AM

Re: LSU/SEC homers
 
It affects computer rankings, but they took the SOS out of the formula, now its only 1/3 each for the two human polls and the combination of the computers. They used to have that oppents win thing as part of the actuall cal

tdarko 11-26-2005 02:12 AM

Re: LSU/SEC homers
 
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Just like Oklahoma last year, right?



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you are really going to compare the USC defense of last year to this year? come on. they let people basically walk in half the time (though it doesn't matter b/c they walk in themselves).

all i am saying is that you can't compare the score of the arkansas/usc game and the arkansas/lsu game and then just say it shows how soft the sec is. its a dumb comment, what it showed was in a defensive minded conference how every game played is going to be decided by less than a touchdown no matter if its the 10-1 team vs. the last place team. its like that in every sport when defensive teams match up.

Dudd 11-26-2005 02:19 AM

Re: LSU/SEC homers
 
It shows nothing of the sort. The SEC is down this year. That is a fact. When your number one team is a 10 yard completion away from looking at a game winning field goal against a conference also ran, that is not a defensive struggle, that is a team that simply isn't that good, just above average.


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