Value bet or delightedly check?
 

Party $5/10. 99 in the CO. Usual loose, passive lineup.

HJ is a poster who checks, I raise, SB calls 2.6 bets, BB calls two, HJ calls.

Flop: 7 6 5 rainbow. SB checks, BB bets, HJ calls. For whatever reason I decide to look at the turn before getting excited and just call. SB calls too.

Turn: Q putting two clubs out. It is checked to me and I of course bet. They all call.

River: offsuit K. Checked to me.

Who value bets this and why? I assume you would fold to a raise if so? What would you do if one player had folded on the turn? Who is glad to take the free showdown?

I think it would be a clear value bet if you were heads up on the river, right? With all these guys around I am not sure.

Guy.

Re: Value bet or delightedly check?
 

I check this. Two over cards, too many opponents plus a slight risk that a missed draw goes crazy and raises. Also there is some chance a missed draw will bet.

HU I think this is a bet against most passives.

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I think you really have to raise flop.
Also there is some mistake in the description of preflop, one raise and SB calls 2.6?

River against loose passive predictable players is probably a valuebet even if there are 3 of them.

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From the preflop description, it looks like someone reraised, or you reraised someone....but you don't say who.

preflop action correction
 

OOOPS. HJ poster raised preflop and I three-bet.

Guy.

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I think you can check behind here. With everyone seeing the flop for 3 bets, someone certainly paired up on the turn or river. I check this and expect to lose about 85% of the time.

HU, I'm betting the river. Ace high and 7x/6x/5x will call you.

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I just raise the flop. I don't think there are enough scary turn cards to justify waiting till the turn, and you definitely need to protect your vulnerable hand from overcards. Given the table is loose and passive, I think a river bet is very marginal, but still a value bet.

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I think you can check behind here. With everyone seeing the flop for 3 bets, someone certainly paired up on the turn or river. I check this and expect to lose about 85% of the time.

HU, I'm betting the river. Ace high and 7x/6x/5x will call you.

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I agree. Also, a loose passive lineup which usually is content to call most of the time rather than bet, one of them has cerainly paired the turn or river - I don't want to put one more BB in this spot.
Interesting hand and certainly needs more discussion.

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As already said raise the flop.
You didnt so you might get pretty loose calls on the river because noone showed much strength postflop. Board was very drawy but the draws didnt hit. HJ should have bet a K in second-lastposition because he could not be sure at all you would bet. K and Q are pretty scary but it doesnt seem THAT likely from the action that they are out.
I think you should valuebet here. Some of the time you will lose one bet against a weak Q but more often you will win 1 or 2 bets against a 7 or other crying calls. As they are loose-passive you can easily fold to a raise.