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12-30-2005 02:28 PM

Flopped two pair
 
Normally I feel I have a problem extracting enough value from good (but vulnerable) hands. Here I am worried that I didn't do enough to protect the hand. How's my line?


PartyPoker, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t535)
UTG+1 (t1280)
MP1 (t735)
MP2 (t650)
MP3 (t1135)
CO (t785)
Button (t1310)
SB (t785)
Hero (t785)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t15, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, MP2 calls t15, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t5, Hero checks

Flop: (t60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t40</font>, <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">MP2 raises t80</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises t160</font>, MP2 calls t120

Turn: (t460) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t200</font>, MP2 calls t200

River: (t860) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t370 (All-in)</font>, <font color="red">MP2 bets t235 (All-in)</font>

splashpot 12-30-2005 02:42 PM

Re: Flopped two pair
 
Flop: Bet the pot. Even an overbet of the pot is ok here since your hand is so vulnerable and you have 3 opponents. When he min-raises you, just go all in. Min-reraising him back is terrible.

Turn: Push. The pot is big. Betting 200 commits you to the pot anyways. And you don't want him to call.

45suited 12-30-2005 02:45 PM

Re: Flopped two pair
 
Dude, he wants to get his money in there. He came into the hand with 650 chips and mini-raised to 80 on the flop. Two draws out there, you've likely got the best (but very vulnerable) hand. I push to his mini re-raise on the flop. No need to get cute here.

12-30-2005 03:23 PM

Re: Flopped two pair
 
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Dude, he wants to get his money in there. He came into the hand with 650 chips and mini-raised to 80 on the flop. Two draws out there, you've likely got the best (but very vulnerable) hand. I push to his mini re-raise on the flop. No need to get cute here.

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Hm what do you put him on? If you're right that he is enticing me go allin, presumably he has a good hand now. So why doesn't he raise more to protect it? Perhaps I am giving him too much credit, but I don't think this adds up.

Don't you think he's just on a draw and is making a limit raise for the free card?

I agree that my bets on flop and turn should have been larger.

45suited 12-30-2005 03:28 PM

Re: Flopped two pair
 
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Hm what do you put him on? If you're right that he is enticing me go allin, presumably he has a good hand now.

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I guess I didn't phrase that exactly right. The point is that the pot is large, your hand is vulnerable but very likely the best at the moment. Push after his raise and either take the pot or get your money in while you still have the best hand.


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