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12-17-2005 12:12 PM

$11 PP overpair vs flop AI RR Lvl 1
 
This kind of thing happening enough I need to settle whether I should worry about it or not. When you have an overpair to a flop, and someone re-raises you....

Example:
No reads, we barely started.
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee
Level:1 Blinds(10/15)
Total number of players : 10
MP ( $800 )
Hero ( $800 )
Seat 3: ( $790 )
Seat 4: ( $725 )
Villian ( $1120 )
Button ( $890 )
SB ( $675 )
BB ( $660 )
UTG ( $800 )
UTG+1 ( $740 )
Level:1
Blinds(10/15)

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero[ K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]

<font color="green">3 folds.</font> Hero raises [45]. <font color="green">2 folds</font>
Villian calls [45]. Button calls [45]. SB folds.BB calls [30].

Pot [190]

** Dealing Flop ** [ 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
BB checks.
Hero bets [190]. Villian is all-In [1075] Button folds. BB folds.
<font color="red">Hero ?</font>

I usually assume he has top pr and call. (I've seen call/pushes like this with A8, so maybe I'm getting sucked into bad play?) Is the threat of 2 pr or a set enough to drop a good hand? Under what conditions? For example, this is level 1, so foldable? if at level 5 no? Should I just realize 5x rr to me I better have a set, and fold KK AA AQ etc? What if it was just 2x rr for 400? Or am I worried over nothing cuz he's just got a flush draw with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ? even then, calling a rr.... lvl 1... fold a better idea?

splashpot 12-17-2005 12:13 PM

Re: $11 PP overpair vs flop AI RR Lvl 1
 
Raise more than 45 preflop. And call that all in as fast as humanly possible.

tigerite 12-17-2005 12:26 PM

Re: $11 PP overpair vs flop AI RR Lvl 1
 
Definitely, call with the quickness. You'll see QJ, KQ, AQ, two random spades, 97, T9, and a myriad of other utter crap here some huge (80%+ at least) of the time.

But yes, raise more preflop!

12-17-2005 01:30 PM

Re: $11 PP overpair vs flop AI RR Lvl 1
 
Thanks for the feedback.
Raise how much on level 1? Typically I've been opening with 45 (call + 2xBB, which I do at every level). I've heard add a BB for each limper. I've heard at level 1 you have to bet much more (60 + 1BB/limper?). Or does pot-betting take care of all that better (which would be 65 in the example).
Thanks!

tigerite 12-17-2005 01:38 PM

Re: $11 PP overpair vs flop AI RR Lvl 1
 
I'd go with t75. Maybe t60 but at an $11 they'll call for t75 if they were going to call for t60, so you might as well get more chips in the pot.

sng-sam 12-17-2005 02:12 PM

Re: $11 PP overpair vs flop AI RR Lvl 1
 
I like t88 and t77 because they induce reraise all in or at least get em thinking about you more.

SAM


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