QJo from MP2...I got a little LAGgy with this one
 

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<font color="blue">BB is 70/6/.5 over 34 hands. Nothing on the other two guys yet.</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

<font color="blue">Well, I wouldn't normally do this from MP2...I had a wild hair. Two cold calls...aw crap!</font>

Flop: (8.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, BB calls $5 (All-In), Hero calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

<font color="blue">Well, I still got my overs and a bd flush draw...let's see if I can isolate this guy...cold called again...3 bet!! Aw crap!</font>

Turn: (11.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls.

River: (14.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls.

Final Pot: 16.25 BB

Re: QJo from MP2...I got a little LAGgy with this one
 

Why do you want to isolate the flop bettor with queen high?

Re: QJo from MP2...I got a little LAGgy with this one
 

What kind of response are you looking for? You seem to know everything you did was a little crazy.

Re: QJo from MP2...I got a little LAGgy with this one
 

didn't you hear? it's opposite day.

Re: QJo from MP2...I got a little LAGgy with this one
 

Typical 2/4 table, just fold pf and wait for a better spot. Raise is OK occasionally but I don't make it a habit.

Fold the flop. Your hand is weak and you are more likely to spew than to win this pot.

But you already knew all that.

Re: QJo from MP2...I got a little LAGgy with this one
 

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What kind of response are you looking for? You seem to know everything you did was a little crazy.

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I dunno...one of those slap-me-around-a-little type of responses to deter me from playing silly late at night?

Re: QJo from MP2...I got a little LAGgy with this one
 

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let's see if I can isolate this guy

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isolate with what? Q high?

Preflop is bad because you have a superloose guy behind you.
Flop is bad for the reason stated above.
I guess the turn and river is OK.

Re: QJo from MP2...I got a little LAGgy with this one
 

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let's see if I can isolate this guy

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isolate with what? Q high?

Preflop is bad because you have a superloose guy behind you.
Flop is bad for the reason stated above.
I guess the turn and river is OK.

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You see, the genius of it all is my crystal ball. I knew that if it looked like I was trying to isolate the flop raiser with his TT, then one of the guys after me would know I only had Q high and coldcall with his 66. And the other guy would of course 3 bet with his 97o. But what they didn't know (and I did, with my crystal ball) was that I would catch one of my overs and crush them. Thanks for helping me build this pot, guys. Genius.

I went to sleep immediately after this idiotic hand.

Re: QJo from MP2...I got a little LAGgy with this one
 

I only raise QJo from this position if I have a bunch of tight-ass' behind me, given the cold-call's I doubt this is the case.

Just peel the flop, we've already determined that the players behind you are loose and capable of cold-calling.

Re: QJo from MP2...I got a little LAGgy with this one
 

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I only raise QJo from this position if I have a bunch of tight-ass' behind me, given the cold-call's I doubt this is the case.

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Makes perfect sense. I hadn't seen any hands from the other two guys yet. I stopped playing right after this...but I certainly wouldn't have tried it again with these guys! The one who 3 bet the flop had 97o!!!

Now what if you have several rocks behind you in late position, but you still have this known loose guy on the BB? Would you try it from time to time?