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Andrew Fletcher 12-15-2005 09:29 PM

Watch Waxie Move Up
 
Standard?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) converter

Movin' On Up Hero ($28.80)
MP2 ($24.65)
MP3 ($23.80)
CO ($51.15)
Button ($12.30)
SB ($10.10)
BB ($30.05)
UTG ($26.90)
UTG+1 ($32.95)

Preflop: Movin' On Up Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Movin' On Up Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Movin' On Up Hero raises to $4.75</font>, MP3 calls $2.75.

Flop: ($9.85) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Movin' On Up Hero bets $10</font>, MP3 calls $10.

Turn: ($29.85) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Movin' On Up Hero bets $14.05 (All-In)</font>, MP3 calls $9.05 (All-In).

River: ($52.95) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $52.95

PoBoy321 12-15-2005 09:31 PM

Re: Watch Waxie Move Up
 
The pre-flop 3-bet SUCKS.

Andrew Fletcher 12-15-2005 09:34 PM

Re: Watch Waxie Move Up
 
Why? I want to end the hand right there. have you ever played AK OOP? It sucks when the flop looks like that.

If he 4-bets, I'm gone.

PoBoy321 12-15-2005 09:37 PM

Re: Watch Waxie Move Up
 
[ QUOTE ]
Why? I want to end the hand right there. have you ever played AK OOP? It sucks when the flop looks like that.

If he 4-bets, I'm gone.

[/ QUOTE ]

Because without a read, he has a pretty narrow handrange or QQ/KK/AA/AK, and with the possible exception of AK, none of those are folding to a 3-bet.

Andrew Fletcher 12-15-2005 09:38 PM

Re: Watch Waxie Move Up
 
I think he'll re-raise with a hand range that is wider than that at 25NL and the call of the 3-bet elimates AA/KK, IMO.

DoomSlice 12-15-2005 09:39 PM

Re: Watch Waxie Move Up
 
If you want to end the hand preflop you need to raise it more than $2.75 more.

Andrew Fletcher 12-15-2005 09:44 PM

Re: Watch Waxie Move Up
 
Actually, I want to end it by folding if he re-raises and I want him to just call if he has a hand &lt; AA-KK. If an A or K falls on the flop, I am usually ahead. I think villian grossley misplayed his hand and wouldn't have had the opporunity if I hadn't offered a lot of chances for him to make mistakes.

12-15-2005 09:48 PM

Re: Watch Waxie Move Up
 
Don't 3 bet AK unless guy is a LAG/maniac, and if you do make a real raise PF. Not getting away from that hand on the flop.

12-15-2005 09:50 PM

Re: Watch Waxie Move Up
 
[ QUOTE ]
I want to end it by folding if he re-raises and I want him to just call if he has a hand &lt; AA-KK

[/ QUOTE ]
Some players will smooth call your 3bet. Why not end it when you miss on the flop, instead of folding before you get a cheap chance to outflop JJ-KK and any other random [censored] he has?

He called a PSB, he isn't scared of your ace. I think he either stacked you with his FH or you split with trip aces K kicker.

Also, by 3betting preflop, you are probably committing your stack if you hit with TPTK. Not necessarily a good thing.

[ QUOTE ]
Why? I want to end the hand right there. have you ever played AK OOP? It sucks when the flop looks like that.

[/ QUOTE ]
You aren't just playing it OOP, you're building a pot OOP! Now you got your stack in without any helpful information at all.

Andrew Fletcher 12-15-2005 09:57 PM

Re: Watch Waxie Move Up
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) converter

Hero ($55.75)
UTG+1 ($29.40)
MP1 ($3.60)
MP2 ($43.05)
MP3 ($17.30)
CO ($25)
Button ($29.30)
SB ($26.55)
BB ($37.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $2.25</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($5.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, MP3 calls $5.

Turn: ($17.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9.05</font>, MP3 calls $9.05 (All-In).

River: ($35.20) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $35.20

They are 2-betting at 25NL with A9.


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