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11-15-2005 02:25 AM

Hold\'em Versus Blackjack
 
I want to be a full-time poker player playing for a living after my retirement. Which game should I devote my effort and time to, hold'em or blackjack?

Biggle10 11-15-2005 02:45 AM

Re: Hold\'em Versus Blackjack
 
Blackjack isn't poker and is -EV.
Play poker. Its more social anyway.

lehighguy 11-15-2005 03:04 AM

Re: Hold\'em Versus Blackjack
 
Good counters are +EV.

Nevertheless, holdem is much better. Less variance. No getting beat up in the backroom.

henrikrh 11-15-2005 08:16 AM

Re: Hold\'em Versus Blackjack
 
If you devote 1000 hours to BJ you can be mintuely +ev, if you devote 50 hours to hold'em and play low limit you can be +ev.

stigmata 11-15-2005 08:39 AM

Re: Hold\'em Versus Blackjack
 
Multi-table the partypoker BJ tables.

tubalkain 11-15-2005 10:40 AM

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Multi-table the partypoker BJ tables.

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Sig'd. Or would be if we had sigs.

11-15-2005 09:13 PM

Re: Hold\'em Versus Blackjack
 
Poker online

Blackjack you have to play at a b&m casino...and unless you are in Nevada, you will have limited opportunities...even then, you will need to have about $10,000 and backcount/wong the strip casino's to make decent money ($25/hour with limited numbers of hours per week available)...it will take you a couple of months to learn basic strategy, and another couple of weeks to learn the key variations, but another couple of weeks of research/analysis/creative thinking to learn the best betting ramps and how to disguise your ability...

Currently, due to the boom in interest about poker, you can earn a better income by playing online poker, plus get sign up bonuses to get started building you bankrool...not sure if the current boom will last, but the pickings are good for poker right now....poker on tv has revived interest in the game after it waned at the California cardrooms in the 70's-80's-early 90's. Who knows how long the boom will last, but get your share while you can!

Spaded 11-15-2005 09:38 PM

Re: Hold\'em Versus Blackjack
 
Give the new guy a break with the abbreviations!

traderjlau: "EV" means "expected value". If you play a game with a positive EV, then you are making money. EVERY casino game except card-counting blackjack and dice-throwing system craps are -EV, because you are playing against the casino, and casinos only exist because they can exploit player's lack of math knowledge. Play poker!

Tzak 11-15-2005 11:38 PM

Re: Hold\'em Versus Blackjack
 
If u pik BJ,would u still consider yourself a time poker player?

jman220 11-16-2005 12:39 AM

Re: Hold\'em Versus Blackjack
 
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I want to be a full-time poker player playing for a living after my retirement. Which game should I devote my effort and time to, hold'em or blackjack?

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Just play blackjack, and when you lose, keep doubling your bets until eventually you win, then go back to your initial bet. You will be unstoppable! Don't tell too many other people about this strategy though, we dont' want it getting out there and then the casinos would know.

Cancuk 11-16-2005 04:47 AM

Re: Hold\'em Versus Blackjack
 
If you hate money, I would put my money on blackjack

KKbluff 11-16-2005 05:27 AM

Re: Hold\'em Versus Blackjack
 
Wasn't Greg Raymer a full time blackjack player at one point?

lighterjobs 11-16-2005 05:37 AM

Re: Hold\'em Versus Blackjack
 
if you don't want your family to get any of your retirement money when you're dead, i would play blackjack.

charlie_t_jr 11-16-2005 02:20 PM

Re: Hold\'em Versus Blackjack
 
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If you hate money, I would put my money on blackjack

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Wrong...

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if you don't want your family to get any of your retirement money when you're dead, i would play
blackjack.

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and wrong. There are pro's and con's to BJ vs Poker. If you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, why respond?

chessforlife 11-16-2005 02:21 PM

Re: Hold\'em Versus Blackjack
 
much more skill in poker.

charlie_t_jr 11-16-2005 02:26 PM

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I want to be a full-time poker player playing for a living after my retirement....

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If that's the case, concentrate on poker.

lozen 11-16-2005 03:18 PM

Re: Hold\'em Versus Blackjack
 
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Good counters are +EV.

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Good luck counting nowadays. Most casinos are reshuffling your cards immediately.

charlie_t_jr 11-16-2005 03:36 PM

Re: Hold\'em Versus Blackjack
 
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Good counters are +EV.

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Good luck counting nowadays. Most casinos are reshuffling your cards immediately.

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Not necessarily true. Location dependant. For instance Tunica has plenty of games. Penetration is more of a problem than continuous shufflers.

Salva135 11-16-2005 04:09 PM

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dice-throwing system craps

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What the hell is this? What kind of "dice-throwing systems" do people have out there that work?

Kaeser 11-16-2005 05:27 PM

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dice-throwing system craps

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What the hell is this? What kind of "dice-throwing systems" do people have out there that work?

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Huge discussion about dice throwing here.

11-16-2005 07:16 PM

Re: Hold\'em Versus Blackjack
 
My friends and I have the same discussion whenever we go to a casino together. I find the poker room and they go to the blackjack tables. I've been playing nearly everyday in some way or another for a couple years now but I don't have the skill level to quit my job quite yet. I'm good enough to win most games at houses and win without having to get lucky at casinos. With that said i think that poker is the best choice for two reasons.

The first is that poker happens to be extremely popular right now. Poker gives you the opportunity to prey on the weak. With the growing number of new players there's gonna be a lot of weak players out there. Blackjack is easier to learn without a doubt but the odds certainly are not in your favor.

The real reason why i love poker so much though is because it's fun. It's fun to play but more importantly it's fun to learn. Everytime i walk away from the table i learn something new about myself and my game. For me poker is a constant learning process and the more i learn the more i want to play. The more i play the more possibilities are opened up to me like limit poker or omaha and the more i play those games the more i learn about myself as a player.

Well anyway that's just a novice outlook on things but i can tell you that i won't get bored with playing poker anytime soon because right now the possibilities for growing are infinite. Which i can't really say for blackjack.


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