88 Live at the Bike. 30/60
 

Fun fun game. Plays so very small stakes. 7-handed. SB tilted off his stack, got it back, and seems to be tilting it off again.

UTG+1: 40/8/.6
SB: 65/22/2 (guesses, of course)

I have been card dead and folding just about everything.

UTG +1 raises, I 3bet with 88, SB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] SB bets, UTG calls, I raise, SB 3bets, UTG calls, I call.

Verbal and betting tell indicate that SB has 5x.

Turn: J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] SB checks, UTG checks, I bet, SB raises, UTG calls, I....

Verbal and betting tell STILL indicate that SB has 5x.

Re: 88 Live at the Bike. 30/60
 

welll, reraise!

Re: 88 Live at the Bike. 30/60
 

obviously my problem isn't SB. Sure, my read may be off, but I am pretty sure that it he is spewing. But what about UTG calling 2 cold on the flop, and 2 more cold on the turn? He is the kind of guy who doesn't know how to fold a pair, but he'd give up on overcards by now, right? Having played with him, I'm pretty sure he does. I also don't think he is raising 66/77 PF.

Re: 88 Live at the Bike. 30/60
 

he has a heart draw or AJ most likely, but he could also be calling w/ AK... this game is donked out, right?
ive seen ppl withastand insane action to chase in donkey 20/40 games, raise.
if youre really concerned about him, check the river.

Re: 88 Live at the Bike. 30/60
 

What about calling and then calling 1 more on the river, but not 2?

Re: 88 Live at the Bike. 30/60
 

raising again might convine UTG that TT no good, also you charge him another bet if he has AhTh... sure hes got alot of outs, but so what...

Re: 88 Live at the Bike. 30/60
 

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raising again might convine UTG that TT no good, also you charge him another bet if he has AhTh... sure hes got alot of outs, but so what...

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I don't think UTG is going to fold though, if he was capable he would have folded the first time around on the turn

Re: 88 Live at the Bike. 30/60
 

I think you should raise again. UTG can do lots of things we want that mostly start with a reraise. If he wakes up anywhere ever we can fold, but he might fold a better hand, he might get stubborn with a worse hand, and he might lose a lot of money if the 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] comes on the river [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

Re: 88 Live at the Bike. 30/60
 

I'd 3bet. I like raising, especially when I expect to be ahead like-so.

Surf

Re: 88 Live at the Bike. 30/60
 

So we are all comfortable both with my read that after this much aggression that SB has 5X AND that UTG has hearts/might fold 99/TT? I mean, isn't that wishful thinking? And to believe those two things so much that we should raise instead of call? Can this be right?

As for my read of SB, I've not played with him before, but his betting/verbal patterns match perfectly 2 hands in which he gave considerable action with an inferior hand AND do NOT match 2 hands in which he had a very strong made hand on the flop. So yeah, I'm pretty sure the read is good, but the sample size is still very small.