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durron597 11-21-2005 05:32 PM

OT: 6000 post update
 
So, preface: I think everyone has a license to update the forum on how they're doing at either a 1000 post mark, or upon reaching Pooh-Bah or Carpal \'Tunnel. Plus I've made some posts of the sort like "running badly", found here, so perhaps people are interested in the follow up. If not, please disregard this thread.

So in the middle up September I had a 3% ROI at the $16s and was boggled about all these 40% ROI posts that people make - I became convinced that the $16s are harder they should be and moved up. Whether I sucked, they were harder than buyin dictated, or what, I don't know. But I moved up anyway pushing my bankroll to the limit, just to take a short.

Well, here I am 1000 posts, 312 $27 sngs, and 2 months later (I have a full time job and only 3 table which is why I post so much more than I play):

ITM: 42.31%
ROI: 15.65%

Net amount won: $1318.50

Finish distribution:
1: 44 (14.10%)
2: 37 (11.86%)
3: 51 (16.35%)
4: 35 (11.22%)
5: 34 (10.9%)
6: 44 (14.1%)
7: 36 (11.54%)
8: 20 (6.41%)
9: 11 (3.53%)

Conclusions: I think it's possible I get a little too impatient around 75/150 blinds. But more importantly I am screwing up 3 handed. I think some of it is random unfortunate happenenings (I push A7o on the button, other big stack calls with AQ, and I give second to the other guy). Recently I've been on a bad run with firsts, that's just poor luck and poorly timed bluffs. Right now I am a net loser in 300/600... loss of 42,151 chips. But I pulled my 15/30 and 75/150 stats into the green, which is good.

I think I'm gonna start posting more three handed hands. But the problem with three handed is that a lot of it has to do with how the game has been playing so far, but I'll see if I can find some interesting ones.

pooh74 11-21-2005 05:41 PM

Re: OT: 6000 post update
 
[ QUOTE ]
So, preface: I think everyone has a license to update the forum on how they're doing at either a 1000 post mark, or upon reaching Pooh-Bah or Carpal \'Tunnel. Plus I've made some posts of the sort like "running badly", found here, so perhaps people are interested in the follow up. If not, please disregard this thread.

So in the middle up September I had a 3% ROI at the $16s and was boggled about all these 40% ROI posts that people make - I became convinced that the $16s are harder they should be and moved up. Whether I sucked, they were harder than buyin dictated, or what, I don't know. But I moved up anyway pushing my bankroll to the limit, just to take a short.

Well, here I am 1000 posts, 312 $27 sngs, and 2 months later (I have a full time job and only 3 table which is why I post so much more than I play):

ITM: 42.31%
ROI: 15.65%

Net amount won: $1318.50

Finish distribution:
1: 44 (14.10%)
2: 37 (11.86%)
3: 51 (16.35%)
4: 35 (11.22%)
5: 34 (10.9%)
6: 44 (14.1%)
7: 36 (11.54%)
8: 20 (6.41%)
9: 11 (3.53%)

Conclusions: I think it's possible I get a little too impatient around 75/150 blinds. But more importantly I am screwing up 3 handed. I think some of it is random unfortunate happenenings (I push A7o on the button, other big stack calls with AQ, and I give second to the other guy). Recently I've been on a bad run with firsts, that's just poor luck and poorly timed bluffs. Right now I am a net loser in 300/600... loss of 42,151 chips. But I pulled my 15/30 and 75/150 stats into the green, which is good.

I think I'm gonna start posting more three handed hands. But the problem with three handed is that a lot of it has to do with how the game has been playing so far, but I'll see if I can find some interesting ones.

[/ QUOTE ]

If its any help, my last 500 at the 27s shows a ROI of 15.something and I just recently pulled my 300/600 out of the red...this was preceeded by pulling 75/150 out of the red a few weeks ago. Small samples, yet interesting in some way I imagine...unless we're the same person.

HighestCard 11-21-2005 05:46 PM

Re: OT: 6000 post update
 
I'm sure I speak for the lower limit Sng players (and myself) when I say, thanks for your contributions as a moderator and for posting interesting hands that create discussion. You keep the forum going in the right direction, and hopefully your pocketbook will grow in time.

Keep up the good work

HC

mmbt0ne 11-21-2005 05:46 PM

Re: OT: 6000 post update
 
It looks like you don't bubble out enough. That would lead to you going into the money with a lower stack more often, making a 3rd place finish more likely.

Of course, I have pretty much the same problem. I don't know how to fix it really, so if you figure something out, let me know.

Hornacek 11-21-2005 05:52 PM

Re: OT: 6000 post update
 
Personally I play more aggro when it comes down to 4-handed play. I punish the mid stacks tremendously, and my breakdown for 1sts is way higher than 2nds. This is from a ~41% ITM and 25% ROI at the $33s.

Work in progress at the $55s though... will post more info when I get a sig. sample size.

Thanks for the moderating, yo. When's the NYC Get together?

wiggs73 11-21-2005 05:53 PM

Re: OT: 6000 post update
 
Thanks for the update. Your work as a mod (and poster) is definitely appreciated.

durron597 11-21-2005 05:58 PM

Re: OT: 6000 post update
 
[ QUOTE ]
It looks like you don't bubble out enough. That would lead to you going into the money with a lower stack more often, making a 3rd place finish more likely.

Of course, I have pretty much the same problem. I don't know how to fix it really, so if you figure something out, let me know.

[/ QUOTE ]

I actually am coming into 3 handed usually with a pretty nice stack, I just seem to be donking the chips off. Here are a few recent hands...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t6277)
SB (t3065)
Hero (t4158)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t400</font>, Hero calls t200.

Flop: (t800) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t600</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t3758</font>,

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB (t3465)
Hero (t2985)
Button (t7050)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t600</font>, SB calls t500, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2960</font>,

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t6650)
Button (t2709)
SB (t4141)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t800</font>, Hero calls t400.

Flop: (t1250) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t2000</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t4250

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t7005)
Button (t3155)
Hero (t3340)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t350) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, BB calls t300.

Turn: (t950) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t800</font>, BB calls t800.

River: (t2550) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t800</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t3350

durron597 11-21-2005 06:02 PM

Here are the last few hands of a recent sng:
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t5865)
SB (t2380)
BB (t1860)
Hero (t3395)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t3345</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t1210 (All-In).

Flop: (t4705) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t4705) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t4705) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t4705

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 3c Jc (one pair, threes).
Hero has 9h Ac (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins t4705. </font>

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t5815)
Button (t2030)
Hero (t5655)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t150

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. BB wins t150. </font>

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(Prolly should have pushed this...)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB (t6215)
BB (t1980)
Hero (t5305)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t1000) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks.

Turn: (t1000) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t1200</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: t2200

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. SB wins t2200. </font>

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t6915)
SB (t1330)
Hero (t5255)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t1280</font>, Hero calls t680.

Flop: (t2060) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t2060) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t2060) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t2060

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Kd 7d (full house, kings full of sevens).
Hero has 3s Js (two pair, kings and sevens).
Outcome: SB wins t2060. </font>

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t6865)
Button (t2710)
Hero (t3925)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t2710</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t2810

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Button wins t2810. </font>

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB (t6215)
BB (t3710)
Hero (t3575)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t1850</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Final Pot: t1950

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. SB wins t1950. </font>

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t6915)
SB (t3060)
Hero (t3525)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t1850</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t1950

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Button wins t1950. </font>

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t7915)
Button (t2710)
Hero (t2875)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2825</font>, BB calls t2225.

Flop: (t5150) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t5150) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t5150) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t5150

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Jh Jc (two pair, jacks and fours).
Hero has Ad 5h (one pair, fours).
Outcome: BB wins t5150. </font>

chisness 11-21-2005 06:02 PM

Re: OT: 6000 post update
 
over how many games?

pooh74 11-21-2005 06:11 PM

Re: Here are the last few hands of a recent sng:
 
J2s hand? I might push there...but I'm crazy like that.


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