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12-24-2005 04:34 AM

3/6 NL Stars hand
 
Dont really have any reads on the guy here.

Any thoughts on all stages of this hand would be appreciated.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (9 handed) converter

SB ($3799.60)
BB ($459.75)
UTG ($864.45)
UTG+1 ($371)
MP1 ($769.15)
MP2 ($1925.60)
Hero ($432)
CO ($990)
Button ($1027.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $6, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $18, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $12.

Flop: ($63) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $70</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $105</font>, Button calls $35.

Turn: ($273) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $111</font>, Button calls $111.

River: ($495) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $793.8 (All-In)</font>, Hero...........

-Skeme- 12-24-2005 04:41 AM

Re: 3/6 NL Stars hand
 
Raise more preflop. I can't see folding here since you have so little left.

12-24-2005 04:48 AM

Re: 3/6 NL Stars hand
 
Another question. What possible hands do you put Villain on?

AceHiStation 12-24-2005 04:48 AM

Re: 3/6 NL Stars hand
 
First thing I'd recommend is adding a BB to your preflop raise as a result of having the MP limper.

Secondly, I think your flop bet needs to be ~3/4 to pot-sized. By betting so small on the flop you aren't defining your hand which in turn makes his minraise not give you much information.

Thirdly, the 3-bet here is fairly worthless as you're simply making the pot bigger without really any other significant purpose.

With TPSK you're typically not looking to takedown a monster pot. Given the fact that you have no reads this hand is very misplayed, and I don't mean to be condescending by any of this. By the river I'm not sure if I call or not having that much of my stack in there. But the hand really comes to bet sizes which I'm guessing is the leak in your game.

One of the big goals of No-Limit is to keep your decisions as easy as possible while making your opponents decisions as difficult as possible. If you look at the way the hand played out, you have very difficult decisions to be made the entire way. I have no clue what hand your opponent may have, due to the line taken by hero.

I suggest establishing a preflop raise formula. I.E. 3BBs + 1BB per limper + 1BB if out of position. I also suggest you make your standard flop bets 3/4 to full-sized pot bets.

Hope this helps, excuse the essay, but I'm trying to get back to the thinking part of my poker game.
Later,
-Ace

12-24-2005 11:29 AM

Re: 3/6 NL Stars hand
 
^^ listen to this guy

Nate_Dogg 12-26-2005 08:26 PM

Re: 3/6 NL Stars hand
 
...hero folds. Opponent is not betting w/ anything you can beat. I really doubt this guys is bluffing here as there is very little that he can represent that didn't "get there". You gave him odds to draw to the flush on the flop with you min-re-raise. As the previous poster said - you need to raise at least 4bb pre-flop on this hand.

ryanghall 12-26-2005 09:56 PM

Re: 3/6 NL Stars hand
 
Raising preflop is fine but you should be raising to $30 or so. Bet around 3/4 pot on flop. You should probably fold to the flop raise, if you play it this way. As played, it's very difficult to know if you're ahead or not because you bet the flop so softly and your opponent may view you as being weak and be trying to steal it. Calling flop may be ok-ish, but you can fold to the turn and certainly the river bet.

Ryan

12-27-2005 01:31 AM

Results
 
I call, villain shows A 10.

12-27-2005 04:11 AM

Re: Results
 
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I call, villain shows A 10.

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I hope you buddy listed him!


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