Re: Strong hand facing river overbet
 

[ QUOTE ]
push

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah do it you pussy! Nonone calls here without the ace. Haha.

Re: Strong hand facing river overbet
 

Id fold. Looks like a flush that misse the turn CR

Results and thoughts
 

I called, he had K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], and i lost. Interesting that you're suggestions were pretty split. I think it's pretty close. Given the information i had at the time i'd probably call again.

Re: Results and thoughts
 

I think 30% air, 60% flush, 10% some other hand, which you are ahead of 50/50

Re: Results and thoughts
 

I really hate making folds like this but am strongly in favor of folding the river, no real in depth reasoning other than getting <2:1 you have to be right a lot.

--turnipmonster

Re: Results and thoughts
 

[ QUOTE ]
I think 30% air, 60% flush, 10% some other hand, which you are ahead of 50/50

[/ QUOTE ]

If that's the case, it's interesting you advised a fold

Re: Results and thoughts
 

so obviously he went for a CR on the turn because he felt you were strong enough, and he also knew he didnt have the nut flush. the K-10 call preflop is pretty loose though.

I think he got you to call and that was great but he also didnt get max value for his hand.. so you can look at it two ways.. you playing as cautiously due to the information you have on him saved you some $$.

do you think you could have gotten him off the hand on the flop? what did you think he could possibly hold with a call of that bet on the flop?

by you checking on that turn you obviously were a little scared off by the 3rd club and then you called on the river after you missed a betting round. so with that in mind you should give yourself a pat on the back for a good read.. BUT you denied your first instinct and called on the river anyways.. i think you played it well if you were pretty sure he had the flush.. but if he even holds AQ you miss a lot of betting there.

Re: Results and thoughts
 

Sorry you posted the results before I could get my 2 cents in, but here goes anyway.

First, there seems to be a lingering difference of opinion re: 6-Max auto-rate rules. I get mine here: 6-Max Link which makes this guy tight. The difference is one of starting hand selection. So what kind of hand range can call your flop bet?

The last point that continues to fascinate me is what I refer to as the "Pussy Rule" which says this is a clear fold. Fold here, and fold to the previous overbet where you paid him off.

Natedoggs (TAFKAn) Rule of Thumb

Re: Strong hand facing river overbet
 

that is an interesting observation.

as he stated before about the villain being a possible sneaky intelligent player.. but thats like saying my gf is a sneaky sweet person.

im a little confused by the poster saying he plays relatively loosely and then turns up the knowledge against him.

Re: Results and thoughts
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I think 30% air, 60% flush, 10% some other hand, which you are ahead of 50/50

[/ QUOTE ]

If that's the case, it's interesting you advised a fold

[/ QUOTE ]

Why? You need to be right more than 50% of the time to make this call. From those percentages you are right 1/3.