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squiffy 11-16-2005 03:45 AM

World Economy v. Poker??? Zero-Sum????
 
According to Fortune magazine interview with Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, both state very emphatically that world economy is NOT a zero sum game.

So can we please stop saying comparing the American economy or the world economy to an artificial closed system poker game with 9 players and 52 cards in a deck.

See Oct. 31, 2005 issue of Fortune at page 84. Maybe someone can find a weblink.

11-16-2005 05:34 PM

Re: World Economy v. Poker??? Zero-Sum????
 
maybe you should get the nobel prize in econ for figuring this out.
There are a few markets such as options where it is a zero sum game though.

crazy canuck 11-17-2005 02:05 AM

Re: World Economy v. Poker??? Zero-Sum????
 
There are a few markets such as options where it is a zero sum game though.

In theory these should return the risk free interest rate. In practice they are negative sum becasue of transaction costs.

Uglyowl 11-17-2005 02:28 AM

Re: World Economy v. Poker??? Zero-Sum????
 
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So can we please stop saying comparing the American economy or the world economy to an artificial closed system poker game with 9 players and 52 cards in a deck.


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Who on earth said that? The people here are very smart and that is basic knowledge.

solucky 11-17-2005 01:20 PM

Re: World Economy v. Poker??? Zero-Sum????
 
in this way poker is a negative game too (rake):)

11-17-2005 01:22 PM

Re: World Economy v. Poker??? Zero-Sum????
 
why do you say you should earn the risk free interest rate in options markets?
it seems to me there is an equivalent loss for every gain minus transaction costs.
having participated on a small scale i know of know interest i have gained.

Sniper 11-17-2005 05:26 PM

Re: World Economy v. Poker??? Zero-Sum????
 
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in this way poker is a negative game too (rake):)

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I have corrected this before... Poker is a zero sum game, because the house counts as part of the system.

Sniper 11-17-2005 05:27 PM

Re: World Economy v. Poker??? Zero-Sum????
 
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In theory these should return the risk free interest rate. In practice they are negative sum becasue of transaction costs.

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Canuck, have you been drinking again??? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

hedgeyerbets 11-17-2005 08:13 PM

Re: World Economy v. Poker??? Zero-Sum????
 
http://www.riskglossary.com/link/opt...ing_theory.htm

Risk neutral pricing.

Sniper 11-17-2005 08:27 PM

Re: World Economy v. Poker??? Zero-Sum????
 
What does that link have to do with zero sum.


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