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12-12-2005 07:43 PM

Re: Custer Hand #3(BP): 7 handed, 11BB, 66 from MP
 
Without some kind of read on the table I generally fold this in 55's and can't imagine the 200's are different enough to make folding wrong. It is kind of close though, I believe I would push 99 here, maybe 88 also. 66 though just doesn't seem like quite enough of a hand. With had a smallish stack I would push 66 but this stack is anything but smallish.

tigerite 12-12-2005 09:54 PM

Re: Custer Hand #3(BP): 7 handed, 11BB, 66 from MP
 
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I think I generally would fold here.

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Really eh? That surprises me.

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If I was one space nearer the blinds, I would probably raise. Or perhaps if the stack sizes weren't as they are (I'm especially looking at the button's and BB's).. I can't see anything good coming out of a raise here. And a push I believe is thin on the +$EV stakes if at all.. So, as Noah said, I fold because every other option seems to suck.

bigt439 12-12-2005 11:09 PM

Re: Custer Hand #3(BP): 7 handed, 11BB, 66 from MP
 
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I think I generally would fold here.

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Really eh? That surprises me.

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If I was one space nearer the blinds, I would probably raise. Or perhaps if the stack sizes weren't as they are (I'm especially looking at the button's and BB's).. I can't see anything good coming out of a raise here. And a push I believe is thin on the +$EV stakes if at all.. So, as Noah said, I fold because every other option seems to suck.

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Eh, yeah it is a pretty thin push. Basically neutral EV against reasonable ranges so I could see wanting to fold. I think raising is a reasonable play though. Make it 350 and you can fold to a push although folding is fine. I don't think it really matters much here.

Custer 12-13-2005 12:50 AM

Re: Custer Hand #3(BP): 7 handed, 11BB, 66 from MP
 
I think it takes very special circumstances to make pushing correct with a 10+BB relevant stack. Sometimes I raise to about 450 (425 - 475, where ever my clicker ends up [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ), sometimes I fold. I don't know which is better.

moses

player1 12-13-2005 12:55 PM

Re: Custer Hand #3(BP): 7 handed, 11BB, 66 from MP
 
i usually raise to 400. is raising to 400ish bad because players tend to reraise all in?

schwza 12-13-2005 02:13 PM

Re: Custer Hand #3(BP): 7 handed, 11BB, 66 from MP
 
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i usually raise to 400. is raising to 400ish bad because players tend to reraise all in?

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the real problem is that when they do, you're likely to make a bad mistake, either by folding to AK or calling AA. also it's going to be difficult to play a flop profitably if someone calls.

bigt439 12-13-2005 02:38 PM

Re: Custer Hand #3(BP): 7 handed, 11BB, 66 from MP
 
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I think it takes very special circumstances to make pushing correct with a 10+BB relevant stack. Sometimes I raise to about 450 (425 - 475, where ever my clicker ends up [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ), sometimes I fold. I don't know which is better.

moses

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350 saves a lot of chips.


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