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KKbluff 11-05-2005 01:34 AM

AK UTG on bubble...
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t10602)
UTG (t9889)
Hero (t14355)
MP1 (t4185)
MP2 (t4100)
CO (t16290)
Button (t25840)
SB (t12738)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t800, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t800, Button calls t800, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (t3550) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t3200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t15440</font>, Button folds, BB folds, Hero ?

This was a $10+1 tourney with about 700ppl.
top 54 get payed and we are hand for hand on the bubble.
I am in the top 30% or so of the field chipwise.

This is an easy fold after the re-raise right?
Did I screw up by changing it up with the AK UTG limp?

Exitonly 11-05-2005 01:39 AM

Re: AK UTG on bubble...
 
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This is an easy fold after the re-raise right?

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er... if he has me baet, i'm going broke probably every time here.

KKbluff 11-05-2005 01:41 AM

Re: AK UTG on bubble...
 
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This is an easy fold after the re-raise right?

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er... if he has me baet, i'm going broke probably every time here.

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Even on the bubble for a MTT?

CardSharpCook 11-05-2005 01:42 AM

Re: AK UTG on bubble...
 
The bubble should rarely effect your play.

Exitonly 11-05-2005 01:44 AM

Re: AK UTG on bubble...
 
Yep.. i'm not goign to go weak-tight for like a $30 payout. you want chips to get to first.

KKbluff 11-05-2005 02:13 AM

Re: AK UTG on bubble...
 
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Yep.. i'm not goign to go weak-tight for like a $30 payout. you want chips to get to first.

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Dont I want to get in the money before I start gunning for first? After all, I would still be above avg chip count even after the fold.
Also, there were a few small stacks that would bust in the next orbit or so unless multiple miracles happened.

Is it worth folding this for:
A: Making it in the money
B: Since I limped raiser was on a WIDE range of hands (a set, KJ, flush draw)
C: Even if I folded I was still in OK position, and if I called and lost I was out completely.

11-05-2005 02:20 AM

Re: AK UTG on bubble...
 
The bubble is chump change. The real money in a MTT is in the final table.

If you're beat here, that sucks.

Exitonly 11-05-2005 02:23 AM

Re: AK UTG on bubble...
 
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Is it worth folding this for:
A: Making it in the money
B: Since I limped raiser was on a WIDE range of hands (a set, KJ, flush draw)
C: Even if I folded I was still in OK position, and if I called and lost I was out completely.

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I think you're passing up on a good amount of value folding here, way more than you'd gain by sneaking into the bubble.

Bubble pays what, $30? and first i'll guess is... 2000? maybe more?

KingDan 11-05-2005 02:27 AM

Re: AK UTG on bubble...
 
Did you limp trying to limp reraise?

FWIW I never this down, especially after limping preflop. What would someone expect you to limp with that really likes this board (besides 55 and MAYBE kj)

KKbluff 11-05-2005 02:28 AM

Re: AK UTG on bubble...
 
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Is it worth folding this for:
A: Making it in the money
B: Since I limped raiser was on a WIDE range of hands (a set, KJ, flush draw)
C: Even if I folded I was still in OK position, and if I called and lost I was out completely.

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I think you're passing up on a good amount of value folding here, way more than you'd gain by sneaking into the bubble.

Bubble pays what, $30? and first i'll guess is... 2000? maybe more?

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Yeah, that was basically how it payed out.


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