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Exitonly 11-13-2005 06:02 PM

How often is he full of [censored]?
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO (t2260)
Button (t2285)
SB (t3415)
BB (t2450)
UTG (t4390)
UTG+1 (t2430)
MP1 (t1950)
Hero (t2755)
MP3 (t575)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t30, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t120) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t90</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls t90, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, SB folds, UTG+1 calls t210.

Turn: (t810) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t550</font>, UTG+1 calls t550.

River: (t1910) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t1550 (All-In)</font>, Hero ? ?



It's the start of the tournament, so i dont know much if anyything.

He pushed the river pretty quick. and it felt sooo much like a bluff.

I dont have to be good alll that often.

KingDan 11-13-2005 06:03 PM

Re: How often is he full of [censored]?
 
I call the river but I would have checked the turn.

11-13-2005 06:18 PM

Re: How often is he full of [censored]?
 
[ QUOTE ]
It's the start of the tournament, so i dont know much if anyything.

[/ QUOTE ]

If this were UB, I can think of probably a dozen decent players who will make this move early in a tournament. If it were me against them, I'd probably think about calling around 1 in 3 times.

I agree with King Dan's point though, and in this case I think he has you. The cold call on the turn is telling.

So many players will play any pair from anywhere early. It's entire possible that he has made a baby set.

Some players will never let go of a 4-straight or 4-flush early either. Possibly he lucked out and straighted the river holding something like J9s.

Your turn bet "told" him that you have at least Tens. He called that and then bet into you. He is either very good or very lucky. Neither bodes well for you here, IMHO.

Curious to see the answer.

LethalRose 11-13-2005 06:19 PM

Re: How often is he full of [censored]?
 
looks like he hit a set or 2 pair on you. i prolly fold

11-13-2005 06:19 PM

Re: How often is he full of [censored]?
 
I've seen the villian before, and know he plays g00t.

11-13-2005 06:21 PM

Re: How often is he full of [censored]?
 
I'm guessing missed flush, maybe with a pair.

I think you are right enough here to call.

11-13-2005 06:28 PM

Re: How often is he full of [censored]?
 
[ QUOTE ]

I dont have to be good alll that often.

[/ QUOTE ]

You have to be good 1/1 times if you want any chance to do well in this tournament.

I really dont think this looks like a bluff often enough. Smells more like a slowplayed set. (maybe spiked it on the turn)

11-13-2005 06:28 PM

Re: How often is he full of [censored]?
 
looks a hell of a lot more like a missed draw (and there are a lot of potential ones on this board) than a very strong hand. Hard to put a % on it, but I'd guess like 60% missed draw, 40% he has you beat. Definitely a call though in my opinion.

EverettKings 11-13-2005 06:29 PM

Re: How often is he full of [censored]?
 
How often? Just about never. You showed so much strength that I can't see him tryint to take you off of the hand, especially when a relatively safe card hits. Most likely he has 33 or T7 or something.

Everett

TomHimself 11-13-2005 06:32 PM

Re: How often is he full of [censored]?
 
u really think 88 is staying in on this flop? cmon

i think this looks more like a missed draw than anything else but possibly flopped set. this is a very tought decision but i think if you factor in the missed draw bluff aspect it probaly is correct to call


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