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bozlax 12-05-2005 01:40 AM

Need a line check in the BB
 
I'm new at the table (less than 10 hands) so no particular reads.

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO (poster) raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

With 5 players in, I don't think I can let this go for either of these bets. No? Yes?

Flop: (15.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button folds, Hero ?

A 2-card flush against 3 opponents playing 6-max...I'm pretty happy with the check-raise, and my inclination is to cap for value since I don't think anybody's going anywhere. What do YOU do?

MrWookie47 12-05-2005 02:06 AM

Re: Need a line check in the BB
 
You are frequently going to be up against a set here, so I don't think your flush alone has sufficient equity to cap. With your straight draw, though, cap away. Cry if the board pairs on the river after you hit on the turn.

Disconnected 12-05-2005 02:15 AM

Re: Need a line check in the BB
 
I like the line so far, and would agree with a cap on the flop here.

Stork 12-05-2005 02:19 AM

Re: Need a line check in the BB
 
Fold p/f first time around, call second, cap flop.

MrWookie47 12-05-2005 02:25 AM

Re: Need a line check in the BB
 
Eh, it's a little loose, but not too bad 5 ways.

bozlax 12-05-2005 02:33 AM

Re: Need a line check in the BB
 
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Cry if the board pairs on the river after you hit on the turn.

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Uh, were you in this hand?

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO (poster) raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (15.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Turn: (16.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls.

River: (20.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, CO folds.

Final Pot: 23.25 BB

MrWookie47 12-05-2005 02:50 AM

Re: Need a line check in the BB
 
Nope. vnh. I'm honestly pretty surprised you didn't get raised on that river. What were they packing?

tinhat 12-05-2005 02:55 AM

Re: Need a line check in the BB
 
Personally I never would've called the first raise; you only have one thing going for this hand and IMM is a marginal mway hand to begin with. Would be interesting to know how many times you could play J2s even @ 6:1 and make any money.

I don't get the flop check - what's its purpose? Are you trying to build a bigger pot or trying to win this already humungoid pot? (For all you know utg limped a mway hand and 3-bet pf to maximize implieds and pairing 2's could beat it.)

IMM you should not be trying to tie 4 others to the pot - you should be trying to win it because it was already huge...

Mike

bozlax 12-05-2005 02:55 AM

Re: Need a line check in the BB
 
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Nope. vnh. I'm honestly pretty surprised you didn't get raised on that river. What were they packing?

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I was, too, but I was prepared to call one back to me.

MHIG
UTG had J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
MP had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Edit: Oh, and CO (poster and PFR) accused us of being "...a bunch of colluters [sic]..." on the turn.

milesdyson 12-05-2005 03:02 AM

Re: Need a line check in the BB
 
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IMM you should not be trying to tie 4 others to the pot - you should be trying to win it because it was already huge...

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i was just wondering if you happened to look at boz's cards?


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