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durron597 12-20-2005 06:02 PM

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huge cop-out...assume you have no reads. If you tell me you always have some read, then you are a much more observant player than me.

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EasilyFound 12-20-2005 06:47 PM

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Do you play AK the same way? Or is that hand more pushable under identical circumstances?

12-20-2005 11:00 PM

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Reads, baby. All about reads.

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huge cop-out...assume you have no reads. If you tell me you always have some read, then you are a much more observant player than me.

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If only sigs were enabled, I would have just found mine!

curtains 12-20-2005 11:35 PM

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Do you play AK the same way? Or is that hand more pushable under identical circumstances?

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I would have pushed AK here for sure if thats what you are asking. Also I would have pushed AQ to a smaller raise. A 400 chip raise often tells me they have a pretty good hand and that they wont fold, but that they dont mind taking the blinds down. Hands like 99+TT+AK+AQ are the main ones that fall into such a category.

EasilyFound 12-21-2005 09:29 PM

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I would have pushed AK here for sure if thats what you are asking. Also I would have pushed AQ to a smaller raise. A 400 chip raise often tells me they have a pretty good hand and that they wont fold, but that they dont mind taking the blinds down. Hands like 99+TT+AK+AQ are the main ones that fall into such a category.

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Yes, that is what I'm asking. You're saying, it seems, that in this situation, against a 400 raise, you'd push w/AK but not w/AQ. If you think you're opponent won't fold if you push, I don't know that I see much difference in pushing w/AK or AQ. Won't you be in the same coinflip sitaution most times? I suppose your more prone to run into KK and AK if you have AQ. You're saying that that possibility is enough difference to make one hand a push and the other a fold? If that is the reasoning, then I need to adjust my game. That is the reason I'm asking.

bones 12-21-2005 09:31 PM

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I would have pushed AK here for sure if thats what you are asking. Also I would have pushed AQ to a smaller raise. A 400 chip raise often tells me they have a pretty good hand and that they wont fold, but that they dont mind taking the blinds down. Hands like 99+TT+AK+AQ are the main ones that fall into such a category.

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Yes, that is what I'm asking. You're saying, it seems, that in this situation, against a 400 raise, you'd push w/AK but not w/AQ. If you think you're opponent won't fold if you push, I don't know that I see much difference in pushing w/AK or AQ. Won't you be in the same coinflip sitaution most times? I suppose your more prone to run into KK and AK if you have AQ. You're saying that that possibility is enough difference to make one hand a push and the other a fold? If that is the reasoning, then I need to adjust my game. That is the reason I'm asking.

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There's a huge difference between getting all in with AK and AQ when you know you'll be called.

EasilyFound 12-21-2005 09:48 PM

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There's a huge difference between getting all in with AK and AQ when you know you'll be called.


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I understand that one hand is better than the other, surely, but I guess I didn't fully understand the difference in playability between the two hands.

curtains 12-21-2005 09:50 PM

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Huge difference between AK and AQ...and my opponent might fold, I dont know for sure that they will call.

EasilyFound 12-21-2005 10:05 PM

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Huge difference between AK and AQ...and my opponent might fold, I dont know for sure that they will call.

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Do you think that holds true at the lower levels? Am I correct to think that at the lower levels, 11, 22, 33, people will make that opening raise with weaker holding?

curtains 12-21-2005 10:12 PM

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yes you are correct, and they will at the 215s also sometimes. Just didnt feel like that was the case with this guy.


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