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Baloosh 09-07-2005 04:58 PM

I hated this hand for some reason
 
...and I can't figure it out. First orbit. Table seemed typical so far. I called preflop (instead of raising) to come alive on the flop and establish an early LAG image. (??)

All comments appreciated.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls.

River: (9 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB

09-07-2005 05:00 PM

Re: I hated this hand for some reason
 
looks fine to me, CO hit his flush on the river and thinks its good.

irishpint 09-07-2005 05:02 PM

Re: I hated this hand for some reason
 
you need to raise this PF in my opinion. good flop raise and call on the 3bet. on the turn if a non heart, non T comes i hope you're raising his bet. on the river obviously the cap is required.

Baloosh 09-07-2005 05:04 PM

Re: I hated this hand for some reason
 
[ QUOTE ]
you need to raise this PF in my opinion. good flop raise and call on the 3bet. on the turn if a non heart, non T comes i hope you're raising his bet. on the river obviously the cap is required.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, I was raising his lead on the turn if a non-heart came.

gharp 09-07-2005 05:05 PM

Re: I hated this hand for some reason
 
[ QUOTE ]
I called preflop (instead of raising) to come alive on the flop and establish an early LAG image. (??)

[/ QUOTE ]
I don't think I understand this. Wouldn't raising preflop give you more of a LAG image? Do you really need that image? Does anyone else pay that much attention at .5/1?

As for the hand, it looks fine (post-flop).

Roadstar 09-07-2005 05:14 PM

Re: I hated this hand for some reason
 
Preflop on the button, you must raise: 1) you have a fairly good hand in LP and 2) more importantly, you want to knock off the blinds (or at least make them pay for seeing the flop with a likely inferior hand).

Post flop - NH [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] cap is a must on the river, you're ahead quite often as there is no indication villain has AA or KK (no PFR).

teajay 09-07-2005 05:17 PM

Re: I hated this hand for some reason
 
I don't see much wrong with this other than the fact that you should have raised preflop. You didn't know you were going to hit so you could "wake up on the flop" to portray the desired image that no one was looking for anyway.

Sykes 09-07-2005 05:19 PM

Re: I hated this hand for some reason
 
Preflop, raise. You have position.

Postflop is absolutly perfect.

09-07-2005 05:22 PM

Re: I hated this hand for some reason
 
I'd raise preflop here.

Everything else seems fine.

09-07-2005 05:26 PM

Re: I hated this hand for some reason
 
Man, if this is a hand that you hate, what's a hand that you like?

And I'll add the obligatory "raise pre-flop".


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