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schwza 12-09-2005 12:36 PM

AKs EP, pick up draw on turn, empire 55r
 
i just got to the table, but i have PT stats on villain from before. 16/6 in 250 hands.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (10 handed) converter

UTG+2 (t3837)
MP1 (t6124)
MP2 (t5000)
MP3 (t3735)
CO (t5215)
Button (t3710)
SB (t6583)
BB (t2740)
UTG (t1360)
Hero (t4305)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t150, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: (t375) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, MP2 calls t250.

Turn: (t875) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

hero?

gobboboy 12-09-2005 12:39 PM

Re: AKs EP, pick up draw on turn, empire 55r
 
I would bet 200 on this flop. Half the pot is more than enough to get him to fold a hand you beat and if you're beat he's calling this flop anyway.

On the turn I lead out for another half pot bet. If he raises, I would probably call if you don't have an image at the table. You have a ridiculous draw right now, with 18 outs likely giving you the best hand.

Sam T. 12-09-2005 12:42 PM

Re: AKs EP, pick up draw on turn, empire 55r
 
Whatcha got on post-flop aggression?

He seems pretty tight, so I don't think he's doing this with air. A ten, maybe some mid pockets, and he is putting you on AK (since he can beat it).

If I think I can get a check behind, I'll check here. Blasting passive players out of pots is hard to do. If I think he's going to bet as soon as I show weakness, I probably fire another barrel, say t500.

ansky451 12-09-2005 12:53 PM

Re: AKs EP, pick up draw on turn, empire 55r
 
I'd either check, with the intention of check raising, or bet something scary like full pot. If he pushes I'd insta call, and be unhappy about it. Betting half pot is just kind of weak, and lets him try to raise you off with his junky pair.

12-09-2005 01:07 PM

Re: AKs EP, pick up draw on turn, empire 55r
 
I think I like a check/push. You probably get a bet/fold out of a good amount of the hands that called you on the flop (TP, PP, 2P), and you've got a lot of outs on hands that call you.

schwza 12-09-2005 01:23 PM

Re: AKs EP, pick up draw on turn, empire 55r
 
i bet and got minraised.

MP2 (t5000)
Hero (t4305) 3255 left after the bet

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t150, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: (t375) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, MP2 calls t250.

Turn: (t875) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t650</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t1300</font>, Hero

12-09-2005 01:29 PM

Re: AKs EP, pick up draw on turn, empire 55r
 
Easy call... river could be hard to play if an A or a K falls, but you can't fold getting correct odds to draw for the nuts, and raising seems reckless.

gumpzilla 12-09-2005 01:31 PM

Re: AKs EP, pick up draw on turn, empire 55r
 
I call pretty quickly. I think he's probably ahead here and I don't think he's going to fold that minraise to a push over the top, so I'd rather just wait and see if I can get money in when one of my 12 outs hits. And I might check-call a reasonable bet on the river if an A comes, so that's sort of a pseudo out.

schwza 12-09-2005 01:55 PM

Re: AKs EP, pick up draw on turn, empire 55r
 
i thought about pushing for a bit, but chickened out and called. a big question i had was whether i was going to get called by JT/J9/QJ.

MP2 (t5000)
Hero (t4305) 2605 left

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t150, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: (t375) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, MP2 calls t250.

Turn: (t875) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t650</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t1300</font>, Hero calls t650.

River: (t3475) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

hero?

gumpzilla 12-09-2005 02:01 PM

Re: AKs EP, pick up draw on turn, empire 55r
 
This depends pretty heavily on my opponent. I will occasionally check this to them, but the thing is that most hands he's likely to bet here are also pretty likely to call a bet on my part. So I bet about 1200 here, and really hope he comes over it. I think he can call 1200 with a fairly wide range of hands, whereas a push I think he'll only call with a K.


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