Curtains hand #2
 

Level:3
Blinds(25/50) - Wednesday, December 21, 18:03:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 66679 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: ( $900 )
Seat 2: ( $1930 )
Seat 3: curtainz ( $895 )
Seat 4: BB ( $2180 )
Seat 5: ( $615 )
Seat 7: ( $1465 )
Seat 8: ( $945 )
Seat 10: ( $1070 )
Trny:18480862 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to curtainz [ 6d 6s ]
6 folds
curtainz raises [125].
>You have options at Table 68279 Table!.
>You have options at Table 68777 Table!.
>You have options at Table 67358 Table!.
FezioJnr is all-In [2130]
curtainz???????

Villian has been EXTREMELY LAG, but even the LAGiest of players get cards sometimes. It seems you'd be on the better side of a coin flip or dominated way more than you'd be in a dominating position. Who calls, who folds?

Re: Curtains hand #2
 

what seat is curtains?

Re: Curtains hand #2
 

sorry SB

Re: Curtains hand #2
 

Folds. I certainly wouldn't raise to 125 from SB (he is in SB, right?) with 66 with the intention of calling a push. Sometimes I make a raise from an earlier position and the person who reraises is LAGGY enough that I decide to call, but here BB was the only one left to act.

Re: Curtains hand #2
 

fold

Re: Curtains hand #2
 

Laggy villain could have literally anything here. With the dead chips in the middle, I call.

Re: Curtains hand #2
 

Well, I agree, not the best raise. However, now that it is done. I would probably call.
1) Pot odds are decent
2) He is +EV to any high cards.
3) BB could be bullying with Ax (where x is < 6)

Once this raise was made, I think the call needs to be made. If he ran into a higher pair, well then that raise wasn't the best.

Re: Curtains hand #2
 

I cannot see putting 125 into the pot vs an uber-lag intending to fold to a push. This seems very bad to me.

So, since we decided to raise I have to think we are calling this push.

Having not seen the play up to this point I cannot say if I would have made the choice to raise initially or not, but we have to expect we will be playing for our stack a high percentage of the time if we raise into an uber lag in a blind confrontation.

-Mike

Assumptions: Uber lag means he will push overbet with any 2 in this position a high perentage of the time. So I expect to be + side of a coinflip ~ 80% of the time (note a portion of his bluffs fall into this category), and dominating more often than dominated.

Re: Curtains hand #2
 

Since the dead chips in the middle have alot to do with most responses, how would most people play a low pair like this? Complete, 3x, 125, or bait the push here? Reasons?

Re: Curtains hand #2
 

I actually think that this played out well.. I would play it the same.