Deuces Wild
The opponent is loose VP$IP = 38.59 with PF Raise % = 4.35, and I victimized him once on a check-raise on this hand not too long before the main hand:
Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (9 handed) converter saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> MP2 ($826.90) MP3 ($735.20) CO ($544) Button ($507.70) SB ($396) Garland ($400) UTG ($527.50) UTG+1 ($429) MP1 ($239) Preflop: Garland is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $4, Button calls $4, SB completes, Garland checks. Flop: ($20) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, Garland checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $8</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Garland raises to $26</font>, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds. Final Pot: $54 Results below: No showdown. Garland wins $54. Button villian showed A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] to "show" he wasn't really stealing. Now for the real hand: Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (7 handed) converter BB ($818.90) UTG ($735.20) MP1 ($530) MP2 ($501.20) Garland ($420.20) Button ($519.50) SB ($255.60) Preflop: Garland is CO with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $18</font>, Garland calls $18, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls $14. Flop: ($60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $20</font>, Garland calls $20, MP1 calls $20. Turn: ($120) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Garland raises to $60</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $40. River: ($240) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Garland raises to $180</font>... All commments appreciated. Garland |
Re: Deuces Wild
I dont mean to hijack this thread, but in hand #1...if he makes a real bet (like full pot) do you fold?
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I dont mean to hijack this thread, but in hand #1...if he makes a real bet (like full pot) do you fold? [/ QUOTE ] I didn't have a read on him up to that point, so yes I would. His $8 on the flop was weak, so I decided to test him out. In this session, I had been experimenting with aggression facing weakness with marginal/nothing hands. Garland |
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Button villian showed AJ to "show" he wasn't really stealing. [/ QUOTE ] God, I wish Party had this feature. Also a live straddle option. |
Re: Deuces Wild
Wait, is MP in hand 2 Button in hand 1? I'm not sure how much I like your line. I mean, he's shown that he is capable of folding, but it looks like he has no interest in going anywhere in this hand. I'm not sure how I feel about it.
However, from hand #1, his weak bet really meant a weak hand, so I guess that it could be a weak hand here. But of course, if he knows that you know that a weak bet means a weak hand, he may be using a weak lead, but if he knows that you know that he knows... |
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[ QUOTE ] Button villian showed AJ to "show" he wasn't really stealing. [/ QUOTE ] God, I wish Party had this feature. Also a live straddle option. [/ QUOTE ]my friend was sweating me yesterday and we were complaining that we could do neither of these things... i also would like to be able to show only one card, preferably while the hand was still live... |
Results and thoughts...
I was targeting my weak opponent, and I felt the key was the turn where I may not have raised enough. Once he called, I thought "opps". I needed to correct my error on the river, and I believe he was putting out the blocking bet to get me to concede a weak hand that could stand a showdown.
Well, I would have none of that and raised a decent amount. Enough to convince my opponent I have a monster or nothing at all. He thought for about 20 seconds and then folded. *whew* Garland |
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[ QUOTE ] I dont mean to hijack this thread, but in hand #1...if he makes a real bet (like full pot) do you fold? [/ QUOTE ] I didn't have a read on him up to that point, so yes I would. His $8 on the flop was weak, so I decided to test him out. In this session, I had been experimenting with aggression facing weakness with marginal/nothing hands. Garland [/ QUOTE ] A check-raise like this is basically a bluff even though we probably have the best hand, right? And by a "bluff" I mean that we don't expect a better hand to fold or a worse hand to call. I definitely like the play. But bets that are neither for value or as a bluff always confuse me. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I dont mean to hijack this thread, but in hand #1...if he makes a real bet (like full pot) do you fold? [/ QUOTE ] I didn't have a read on him up to that point, so yes I would. His $8 on the flop was weak, so I decided to test him out. In this session, I had been experimenting with aggression facing weakness with marginal/nothing hands. Garland [/ QUOTE ] A check-raise like this is basically a bluff even though we probably have the best hand, right? And by a "bluff" I mean that we don't expect a better hand to fold or a worse hand to call. I definitely like the play. But bets that are neither for value or as a bluff always confuse me. [/ QUOTE ] I would've liked a bigger checkraise. But there is value to betting enough to end the hand right there, since opponent is capable of improving. |
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But there is value to betting enough to end the hand right there, since opponent is capable of improving. [/ QUOTE ] Sure, I understand trying to end the hand immediately. But it would seem we are not really expecting to get called by a worse hand. |
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