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12-08-2005 11:51 PM

did i play this correct?
 
im a beginner looking for comments on how i played this hand. its a $1 tourney; full of fish.

i get QQ in 3rd position. 2nd position limps(blinds are 30/60) villian raises to 60 with AKo wtf?? folds to me, 2 seats before button. i reraise to 175. folds to villian who calls. flop is Ad Qh 7h with 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]s. villian bets 150 into 425 chip pot, i raise to 400, villian calls. turn is 7s. villian checks. i push all in, (590) villian calls. guess wath the river is?

Pov 12-09-2005 12:58 AM

Re: did i play this correct?
 
What do you think you did wrong? Why?

SheridanCat 12-09-2005 02:29 AM

Re: did i play this correct?
 
I'm having trouble parsing this hand in my head.

Where are you exactly, with your QQ? You say you are in third position, yet 2nd position limps and another player raises before it gets to you. I'm stumped.

The blinds are 30/60, but the villain - who entered after the limper - raised to 60? Do you mean, raised 60 to 120?

Finally, you seem to have turned a full house. You claim villain held AKo, so he's drawing dead. What is your question about how you played?

I'd like to comment, but I have no idea what happened in this hand. If you have the history, just post it or run it through a converter.

Regards,

T

gabbahh 12-09-2005 07:07 AM

Re: did i play this correct?
 
You say flop is Ad Qh 7h with two diamonds. So I am assuming two diamonds.

I guess that the river was another diamond or an Ace.
Very bad in both ways..
Guess he had A(non diamonds)Kd .
You played it ok. The weak raise on the flop by villain suggests he wants to draw cheaply. So your reraise is good. His calling of your raise might suggest a made hand like TPTK. Next his checking on the turn and the calling of the allin made me put him on Ace non diamonds with a random diamonds like a king (he was getting good odds for his turn call). With A?Kd being the most likely.
You got outdrawn. Your opponent played it bad, but got lucky on the river.

12-09-2005 07:08 AM

Re: did i play this correct?
 
If I'm reading the action right, I don't think either you or villain did much wrong. Apart from perhaps villains initial pre-flop raise and flop bets are too low.

He's flopped TPTK, you've flopped a set: you both think you're ahead.

From your last line, I'm guessing he rivered an A for a full house?

Kurn, son of Mogh 12-09-2005 09:52 AM

Re: did i play this correct?
 
guess wath the river is?

The river is irrelevant to your question. Well played.

Songwind 12-09-2005 11:26 AM

Re: did i play this correct?
 
Good play, nice aggression, sorry if you got sucked out. Keep playing that way and you'll win more than you lose [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

SheridanCat 12-09-2005 02:04 PM

Re: did i play this correct?
 
[ QUOTE ]
You say flop is Ad Qh 7h with two diamonds. So I am assuming two diamonds.

I guess that the river was another diamond or an Ace.
Very bad in both ways..


[/ QUOTE ]

But, he apparently turned a full house, so where was he behind in this hand? That's why I asked for clarification.

Regards,

T

12-09-2005 02:32 PM

Re: did i play this correct?
 
i too don't understand the order of play.... i think you were 3rd from last, not 3rd.....

it seems like pretty good play... and i didn't understand whether you thought the pre-flop raise with AKo was too little or too big (i.e. shouldn't have raised).

we'd probably also need chip counts.

the smaller tournaments we all play, you don't have that many chances to double up, so i'd push QQQ like you did no matter what. cash game you get into "smarter laydowns" but tournaments you have to increase your chips and you won't get a better opportunity than this (although pre-flop raise from a good player is a red flag, i'd still play it as you did)

12-09-2005 02:35 PM

Re: did i play this correct?
 
yeah, i didn't notice the full house either. only pocket hands that beat you are AA or 77.. you don't have to worry about the flush with your full house.

i think you might need to edit the description somewhat


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