Pushing JJ pre-flop against two monkeys, 100NL
 

MP is 50/20 after 50 hands, always opening for $4. BB is 54/15.

Not long ago MP raised pre-flop with 88, MP 3-bet to $12 with TT and MP min 4-bet him. BB pushed, got called and won the race. They both had close to full buy-in stacks when this happened. Considering this history, do you push or fold?

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($97)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($212.95)</font>
<font color="#C00000">BB ($36.76)</font>
UTG ($284.49)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($89.75)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $11.5</font>, BB calls $11, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $28</font>, Hero?

Re: Pushing JJ pre-flop against two monkeys, 100NL
 

This is one of my biggest leaks. Just because someone has the stats that they are absolutely ridiculous does not mean that they don't have the goods. His 3-bet screams KK or AA. I'm letting this one go and looking for a better spot to stack this villain.

Re: Pushing JJ pre-flop against two monkeys, 100NL
 

Did you read the part where he 4-bet with 88?

Re: Pushing JJ pre-flop against two monkeys, 100NL
 

a clear fold imo. Your are most likely racing at best with one opponent, if two call then you are in bad shape. Even if he is capable of playing this way with 88 he would also play the samewith QQ-AA, and big suited broadways.

Even if you can garrantee that the BB will fold to a push you are still most likely racing, why push such a ridiculous edge hoping that he is making a bad play, wait until you know he is making a bad play then stack him.

Re: Pushing JJ pre-flop against two monkeys, 100NL
 

pretty easy all-in IMO.....given the history. You are 5 handed...the chance he's got QQ-AA aren't good. I think you see a lower PP and Ax quite a bit of the time....I doubt you are way behind here very often....and I would think you are way ahead quite often.