Standard or weak?
 

Villain sat down one hand ago and I've never seen him before.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (8 handed) converter

Button ($200.06)
SB ($410.6)
BB ($407.65)
UTG ($159)
UTG+1 ($142.5)
Hero ($400)
MP2 ($349.54)
CO ($416.1)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $20</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $16, Hero calls $8.

Flop: ($82) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $50</font>, Button folds, BB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $132

Re: Standard or weak?
 

Well i'm not too sure what a min-raise means in 2-4 online but i'm guessing they aren't typically idiots at that level.

Seems standard.

Re: Standard or weak?
 

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Well i'm not too sure what a min-raise means in 2-4 online but i'm guessing they aren't typically idiots at that level.

Seems standard.

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Generally, I think 2/4 players deserve a bit more credit than at lower stakes, but a preflop minreraise is a donk move at any stakes, isn't it?

Re: Standard or weak?
 

pretty standard. if i'm feeling frisky, i may lead the flop.

Re: Standard or weak?
 

With no read here, and donkish preflop minraise - I think your lay down is the best way to go. Wait for a better spot to put your chips in. Online play minraises typically mean nothing, or a MONSTER.

Here - it looks like a monster.

Re: Standard or weak?
 

are you not leading on that flop because you are assuming player has bigger PP?

This seems pretty weak to me. Can someone please explain more in depth. Are you making that assumption when you call his minraise PF? if so then are you just hoping to flop a set and folding otherwise?
I understand that the minraise is often used to reopen the betting when you have a hand you are willing to go all-in with, but it seems that at this point, without a good read on the player.

Anyone?

Re: Standard or weak?
 

Hrm... this is a good point.

I think leading this flop for about $30 is the best course of action.

Re: Standard or weak?
 

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I think leading this flop for about $30 is the best course of action.

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This will result in villian coming over the top whether he has you beat or not. If you're going to lead the flop, you need to bet 2/3 to pot here. I would need a read that villian could reraise without AA-QQ in order to lead this flop. Without a read I like check/fold. JMO

Re: Standard or weak?
 

My apologies - you're absolutely correct. I didn't realize there were three people in this pot. I lead it for about $45.

Re: Standard or weak?
 

I don't know if I can justify a check/fold here against a minraising Donk that I haven't played any hands with. If I lead the flop for $45, and he still comes over - then I possibly lay it down.