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tigerite 12-07-2005 03:25 PM

Re: $22 blind 25/50: Push with TT on button aftre min-raise + caller
 
Trust me, you've done it wrong.

Beck 12-08-2005 08:20 AM

Re: $22 blind 25/50: Push with TT on button aftre min-raise + caller
 
well, enlighten me, please

tigerite 12-08-2005 09:14 AM

Re: $22 blind 25/50: Push with TT on button aftre min-raise + caller
 
Meh.. I'll have to dig out how to do these formulae later, I worked it out a long time ago. It's not as simple as "normal" ICM though, not by a long shot.

12-08-2005 11:47 AM

Re: $22 blind 25/50: Push with TT on button aftre min-raise + caller
 
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Furthermore, I need help doing ICM calculations on this one:

I put SB and BB's calling ranges to TT+, ATs+,AQo+ (5.3%)and UTG1 and UTG2 to 88+, A8s+, ATo+, KQo, KQs (9.8%).

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But, that's not 9.8% of the range with which they would already have put chips in the pot. You've got to figure out what their intial ranges were for entering the pot and then determine with what percentage of those they will call the raise.

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The chance of not being called is 0,902*0,902*0,947*0,947 = 72,8%??
But when I have to do ICM-calculations on each of the possible scenarios if being called I got a problem (72,8+9,8+9,8+5,3+5,3= 102,3%!!!!)

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It looks like this is because you have not accounted for the possibility of two (or more) players calling the raise.

12-08-2005 12:11 PM

Re: $22 blind 25/50: Push with TT on button aftre min-raise + caller
 
I think it is a definite push as well. There is no way you can fold this hand, and there is no raise that does not justify an all-in bet. With 3 cards coming down on the flop, there is a good chance that one of them will be higher than a T. So, why raise, have a chance at seeing a really high flop, then folding with only 300 chips left? You should at least keep some FE by raising all in.


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