TP weak kicker check up
 

MP is tag. Most likely he'll hold on to pairs under a king. Not sure how he's handling AQ, AJ on a blank turn.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>

Aggression OK? Anyone wait for the turn?

Re: TP weak kicker check up
 

If he will still bet the turn with underpairs or AQ/AJ you should check/call, check/call, and bet the river I think.

A lot of guys will check behind on the turn with AQ/AJ and lower pocket pairs, which is no good since they'd call a bet there. You are ahead of 88-QQ and AQ/AJ and behind AK, KQ, KJ maybe, KK, and AA. I think you're ahead enough that preventing the free card from a hand that would call is worth putting in extra bets if behind.

Another viable line is to call the flop and donk the turn. This might keep AQ and AJ in more often. It would be really sweet if you could fold to the raise, but he could be donking it up and you have winning/splitting outs.

Or against a player capable of raising for a free showdown, betting the turn, calling the raise and folding the river unimproved might work.

Kind of a tricky spot IMO. Definitely don't checkraise the turn if that's what you're thinking. When he bets the turn you're screwed usually.

EDIT: So let's say you are ahead of 88-QQ, AQ/AJ. That is 59 hands you're ahead of. You are behind KQ/AK/KK/AA which is 23 hands. So based on that it's worth risking putting in another bet to prevent a free card, but if he will fold AJ/AQ to either a turn donk or flop checkraise you kinda need to take those 32 combos out and in that case it makes calling down best.

So...what's the best way we can keep AQ/AJ in?

Re: TP weak kicker check up
 

By the way, if you take the check/call, check/call, bet line, you must fold to a raise. Check/calling the river has higher EV than bet/call. When he raises the river after that line (which he would with AK/KK/AA and maybe KQ), you are so screwed.

The correct line in the situation really depends on how often he checks behind on the turn and how he reacts to various action with AQ/AJ.

For example, if he would always fold to a turn donk with AQ/AJ but would call the river if turn action went check/check , then check/call check/call bet-fold is best. AQ/AJ are 32 combos so they are pretty important.

Re: TP weak kicker check up
 

I agree if we think he'll bet the turn too with most of his holdings we can just check-call the flop and turn, but I'm not sure how many tag's are firing that turn shot with the weaker holdings.

Check-calling the flop and donking the turn has merit if he'll peel with AQ and AJ for sure. He might be more likely to call down some of his weaker pairs, too. If he'll fold AQ and call down the pairs to a flop check-raise anyway though then there's no reason not to check-raise the flop.

I think the fact that there's a flush draw out there will probably force him to call down more lightly. If the flop was a rainbow, a more passive line would probably be best since I think he can get away from his weaker hands easier with no obvious semi-bluff hands out there.

Re: TP weak kicker check up
 

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If he'll fold AQ and call down the pairs to a flop check-raise anyway though then there's no reason not to check-raise the flop.


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Well if he's folding AQ and AJ to a flop checkraise and callign down with pairs then you are ahead of 27 combos (88-QQ) and behind 23 (AK/KQ/AA/KK). He's either gonna 3bet the flop or raise the turn with those hands that beat you so, unless you plan to fold to further aggression, you are not ahead enought to checkraise the flop. Also sometimes he would fold AQ/AJ to a flop checkraise but pay off on the river if the you check/call the flop and the turn goes check/check.