Bottom set facing all in
 

Villian seemed solid although this was fairly early in my time at the table. Over 203 hands he ended up 23/3.4/1.4

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) converter

CO ($241.10)
Button ($45.70)
SB ($105.50)
BB ($102.30)
UTG ($31.60)
UTG+1 ($98.50)
Hero ($175.30)
MP2 ($35)
MP3 ($75.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $2, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $2, Hero calls $2, MP3 calls $2.

Flop: ($16.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, MP3 folds, Button folds, BB calls $6.

Turn: ($34.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $32</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $90.3</font>, Hero calls $58.30.

River: ($215.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $215.10

First off is my raise to small on the flop? Maybe more like $15. Then does anyone find a fold on the turn? Overpair probably reraises pf. 2 pair seems unlikely on this board if we consider the villian unlikely to make any unreasonable calls pf.

Re: Bottom set facing all in
 

Calls at the 8high flop, pushes a PSB at the 10.

Looks like his 10s caught a set on the turn.

Re: Bottom set facing all in
 

/me agrees with svj, but I pay it off.

Re: Bottom set facing all in
 

and yes, I raise pot on flop.

Re: Bottom set facing all in
 

Raise pot on flop. I would've called turn, but I can't really see many hands that play this way that you beat !? I think TT plays this way, and you can see the other sets play this way too (88 and 44). I suppose something like A8 of hearts is also possible. Looks to me like a fold on the turn is correct, but in practice I probably wouldn't be able to find that fold. (of course if you raised more on the flop, pot would be bigger, if you potted the turn then you'd be almost all-in and have to call).

Re: Bottom set facing all in
 

Get a better rythym to the sizing of your bets. $9 on the flop and then $32 on the turn is off-kilter. $15 or so is good on the flop raise. As played, this would be a monster laydown, and I'm not sure I would or could do it. You will see an overpair here enough to call and have it be +EV probably.

Re: Bottom set facing all in
 

aj - Villain is "solid" but doesn't reraise preflop in a 6-way pot with JJ-AA ? Seems unlikely.

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aj - Villain is "solid" but doesn't reraise preflop in a 6-way pot with JJ-AA ? Seems unlikely.

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I guess I included 99 in that overpair comment (overpair to the flop). JJ and QQ, especially JJ, don't always reraise that action preflop OOP.

Re: Bottom set facing all in
 

It looks to me like it entirely depends on whether you think he can have AA-JJ here. If his range is QQ-TT,88,44,Ah8h, you're 56% to win and you have to call. If you take out the QQ and JJ, you're 10% to win and have to fold. The just-call on the flop and check-raise on the turn sure would be weird for QQ and JJ, they look a lot more like a set to me. If he was more of a donk I'd be inclined to add in some "wtf" hands (where you call and he turns over AK or 99 and you go "wtf") which give you a free extra 10% chance of winning, but his stats don't look like that.

Re: Bottom set facing all in
 

My gut tells me that it is a monster fold. You "announced" a hand on the flop. The turn bet is in line with the flop. Villian must be aware that you might hold a set and that you would fold overpairs and two pair to a all in. I would not have managed to fold in the head of the battle but from a distance...

Chris.