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Chris Daddy Cool 07-04-2005 07:54 AM

87 river plan
 
party 20/40 game okay game, 2 big donators but the rest of the table seems decent at worst. i've been card dead and haven't played a hand in ages.

i raise utg with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. mp makes it 3 bets and donator caps on the button. i've seen him do this with A7o so take that as it is. sb folds. donator#2 calls all cold in the bb. he will do this with a wide range as well, connecting cards, suited cards, decent aces, broadways. i call. mp calls. 4 to the flop for 16.5 small bets.

flop: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

bb checks. i bet. mp calls. button calls. bb calls. 4 to the turn for 10.25 big bets.

turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

bb checks. I check. mp bets. button calls. bb folds. i raise. mp 3-bets. button calls. i call. 3 to the river for 19.25 big bets.

river: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

sup homies?

Evan 07-04-2005 08:03 AM

Re: 87 river plan
 
If you were't willing to cap the turn I don't see how this changes that much. We sucked out on A8/A5/55, but those all seem pretty unlikely anyway.

EDIT: It also removes 77 from his range, obviously. But that was only 1 combo anyway, so no biggie.

miami32 07-04-2005 08:47 AM

Re: 87 river plan
 
Why would you raise utg with 87suited?

mr pink 07-04-2005 08:58 AM

Re: 87 river plan
 
no way is anyone putting you on 2 pair in this spot.

looks like mp either slowplayed top set, or figures you and he are tied with AK.

i dunno, check/raise looks like a pretty good option, especially if the button overcalls.

edit: i suppose you'd also have to fold to a 3-bet on the river if you go with the check/raise unless mp is a total LAG.

Carmine 07-04-2005 05:14 PM

Re: 87 river plan
 
I think I would bet/call this. I don't want to miss bets. AA is the only hand we fear. 88 also but you hold one and one on the board makes that unlikley. I also don't want to pay three to find out he holds one of the two hands that beat me.

MarkD 07-04-2005 05:31 PM

Re: 87 river plan
 
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87 river plan

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Jesus, I'm still confused by your turn play. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

PokerBob 07-04-2005 05:50 PM

Re: 87 river plan
 
checkity checkity raisity raisity

PokerBob 07-04-2005 05:52 PM

Re: 87 river plan
 
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Why would you raise utg with 87suited?

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i've been card dead and haven't played a hand in ages.


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Justin A 07-04-2005 07:32 PM

Re: 87 river plan
 
I check and call here if MP seems decent.

toss 07-05-2005 01:28 AM

Re: 87 river plan
 
Check calling with a rivered full house seems weird with the donator in the hand. The way MP's played though implies a better fullhouse or over occasionally played AKo or something. Ehhhhh checkcall. Not sure if thats the best move.


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