Ridiculously deep stacked 1/2NL live - T8s
 

I have about $1,800 in front, gambler has me covered, and the news guy has about $150. The rest of the table varies from $200 to $700.

I have T8s in the SB. The entire table limps in, I complete, BB checks.

Flop ~$20 K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I lead for $20, news guy calls, 1 caller, gambler makes it $40, LP caller, I call, news guy pushes for about $130 more, caller folds, gambler calls, LP folds, I ??call??

Pot is $360 with $130 to call.

I think I can extract quite a bit of money from gambler if I hit my fairly well hidden draw on the turn...he'll call me down with two pair or better (which is what I think he has). How deep do I have to be to make this call?

What if the K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] was the K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?

Re: Ridiculously deep stacked 1/2NL live - T8s
 

youre getting 2.7 or so to 1 on the call of the 130,and there is 1600 left in your stack between you and the gambler? i'd say those are good odds and youre certainly deep enough.

Re: Ridiculously deep stacked 1/2NL live - T8s
 

Assuming that gambler will bet the turn your chances are 1/5.75 to hit. So you need to win : 130*(1/1/5.75) = 130*5.75 = 747. The pot will be 490 with your call so you need implied odds worth 250 to call this.
Now you will have 2street to extract. Even if hes paying of one time in two you should be able to easily extract 500 or more + you have some chances to see cheap river so its easy call imo.

If there is flush draw on the board I would fold because one guy is allin already and you can have problems with extracting if diamond hit and bluffing is pointless.
(EDITED to remove my retarded comment )

Best wishes [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Ridiculously deep stacked 1/2NL live - T8s
 

The problem here is that news guy is all-in. So when that 6 or J comes and you hit your straight and you push all-in, gambler will/should know that you cannot be bluffing, because you still need to show down the best hand to beat news guy.

So I would fold.

Re: Ridiculously deep stacked 1/2NL live - T8s
 

On further consideration, these stacks really are ludicrously deep, and you do call him a gambler.

In most cases this is a fold, but here, go ahead and call if you want.

Re: Ridiculously deep stacked 1/2NL live - T8s
 

the call is more than ok. its not close when you are that deep with a guy who will continue to pound when you hit your draw.

Re: Ridiculously deep stacked 1/2NL live - T8s
 

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the call is more than ok. its not close when you are that deep with a guy who will continue to pound when you hit your draw.

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Most people don't do that in a protected pot with no flush draw.