Don\'t value bet this river.
 

table is LPP. Everyone. Someone has the flush, right?

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (6 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls $0.63 (All-In).

River: (17.63 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: 17.63 BB

Re: Don\'t value bet this river.
 

w.t.f.

Re: Don\'t value bet this river.
 

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LOL

OP: Bet/call.

Re: Don\'t value bet this river.
 

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table is LPP. Everyone. Someone has the flush, right?

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Of course. Nobody ever calls down with just a pair.

Re: Don\'t value bet this river.
 

three bet the flop

Re: Don\'t value bet this river.
 

I think at least a couple of people are drawing, and I can get two out of everyone once the guy to my left fires again on the turn. isn't there more value in that?

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Please see above.

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Re: Don\'t value bet this river.
 

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I think at least a couple of people are drawing, and I can get two out of everyone once the guy to my left fires again on the turn. isn't there more value in that?

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and if he doesn't fire and someone in late position bets his ace, will you be happy you faced the field with two cold on a big street?

3-bet the flop while they will call and get tied to the pot with terrible hands, and don't chance pushing everyone out on the turn.

The Fundamental Theory of Flushes on the River:
 

If you check, someone has it and will bet, or no one has it and no one will bet.

If you bet, someone has it and will raise.

Therefore, if you bet you will lose, but if you check you might not lose.

Re: The Fundamental Theory of Flushes on the River:
 

I hope you are just being sarcastic.

This is a clear value bet since table is LPP, and these players don't need a good draw to call down. A bet here could get called by 2 players if not more!! I would not be shocked if some player over calls with middle pair [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].