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Sifmole 12-16-2005 09:24 PM

I figured push or fold....
 
My first thought on the play was -- who makes this bet if they hit the set? but thinking back, pot bet when worried about a flush paired board might be reasonable.

I can't really see one 3 here, if he hit the quads oh well. I can see A9, but not this bet from 99, he'd want me to catch my ace or the flush.

The overbet was to drive "dogg" out. Tell me exactly how stupid this all was. It did occur to me after the fact that "dogg" could well have called PF and checked the 99.


$0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:00:50 ET - 2005/12/16
Seat 1: cantbuyahand ($135.15)
Seat 2: Dogg84 ($96.50)
Seat 3: Harrison5386 ($39)
Seat 4: Hero ($207.40)
Seat 5: herbertdotcom ($100)
Seat 6: mvicano ($123)
Dogg84 posts the small blind of $0.50
Harrison5386 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
mvicano is sitting out
Hero raises to $4
mvicano folds
mvicano stands up
cantbuyahand folds
Dogg84 calls $3.50
Harrison5386 calls $3
*** FLOP *** [3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
Dogg84 checks
cantbuyahand stands up
Harrison5386 bets $12
Hero raises to $203.40, and is all in

Godfather80 12-16-2005 09:34 PM

Re: I figured push or fold....
 
[ QUOTE ]
My first thought on the play was -- who makes this bet if they hit the set? but thinking back, pot bet when worried about a flush paired board might be reasonable.

I can't really see one 3 here, if he hit the quads oh well. I can see A9, but not this bet from 99, he'd want me to catch my ace or the flush.

The overbet was to drive "dogg" out. Tell me exactly how stupid this all was. It did occur to me after the fact that "dogg" could well have called PF and checked the 99.


$0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:00:50 ET - 2005/12/16
Seat 1: cantbuyahand ($135.15)
Seat 2: Dogg84 ($96.50)
Seat 3: Harrison5386 ($39)
Seat 4: Hero ($207.40)
Seat 5: herbertdotcom ($100)
Seat 6: mvicano ($123)
Dogg84 posts the small blind of $0.50
Harrison5386 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
mvicano is sitting out
Hero raises to $4
mvicano folds
mvicano stands up
cantbuyahand folds
Dogg84 calls $3.50
Harrison5386 calls $3
*** FLOP *** [3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
Dogg84 checks
cantbuyahand stands up
Harrison5386 bets $12
Hero raises to $203.40, and is all in

[/ QUOTE ]

What worse hands call? What better hands fold?

Hoopster81 12-16-2005 09:37 PM

Re: I figured push or fold....
 
You are only getting called when you are crushed.

edit: and your title, why do you think only a push or fold is the play here? How about just a good post-sized raise?

Sifmole 12-16-2005 09:40 PM

Re: I figured push or fold....
 
[ QUOTE ]
You are only getting called when you are crushed.

edit: and your title, why do you think only a push or fold is the play here? How about just a good post-sized raise?

[/ QUOTE ]

Because I wanted "Dogg" out with his AKs flush draw.

Sifmole 12-16-2005 09:44 PM

Re: I figured push or fold....
 
[ QUOTE ]

What worse hands call? What better hands fold?

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I figured Harrison would call with what I figured was A9 or a flush draw. I think I included way too much fold equity against "dogg", and over looked a play from him.

Hoopster81 12-16-2005 09:49 PM

Re: I figured push or fold....
 
Man, you were really worried about dogg, huh? Does he like always have the goods or something?

Sifmole 12-16-2005 09:54 PM

Re: I figured push or fold....
 
[ QUOTE ]
Man, you were really worried about dogg, huh? Does he like always have the goods or something?

[/ QUOTE ]

Do I want to pot bet so he sticks around?

xorbie 12-16-2005 10:02 PM

Re: I figured push or fold....
 
Villain has only $37 guys, so push and pot bet are the same thing.


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