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coinflip 02-14-2005 12:50 AM

Calling down AKs unimproved
 
Villain in this hand is 17/8/2.66. Flop seems standard, although I'd be interested in hearing if anyone prefers to check/call here. I'm mainly curious about people's thoughts on the turn and river here.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (9.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

coinflip 02-14-2005 09:16 AM

Re: Calling down AKs unimproved
 
Bump for the morning crowd [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

phillydilly 02-14-2005 09:39 AM

Re: Calling down AKs unimproved
 
This may be weak tight, but i usally lay this down to the flop raise, if I had backdoor striaght or flush outs, I'd see the turn, but as it stands right now, I let it go.

Turn, I'd definately fold,
River, I'd fold,
now, allow the weak tight bashing to begin

ScottTheFish 02-14-2005 11:00 AM

Re: Calling down AKs unimproved
 
You have to bet the flop, and call the raise, first question is on the turn...he's pretty aggressive so it's possible he's pushing AQ or something, hoping you missed, too. I probably call him down as you did, expecting to lose to a middle pocket pair most of the time.

Fat Nicky 02-14-2005 11:13 AM

Re: Calling down AKs unimproved
 
Flop is fine. My default play on the turn after getting raised on the flop with overcard and I don't have any draws is to fold.

syka16 02-14-2005 11:21 AM

Re: Calling down AKs unimproved
 
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This may be weak tight, but i usally lay this down to the flop raise

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That's the only move that's W/T. Folding on the turn is pretty standard for me.

Rico Suave 02-14-2005 11:22 AM

Re: Calling down AKs unimproved
 
Fat Nicky:

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My default play on the turn after getting raised on the flop with overcard and I don't have any draws is to fold.

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Mine too.

But I think I do not show down my big aces unimproved often enough against unknowns.

--Rico

Khaos337 02-14-2005 11:31 AM

Re: Calling down AKs unimproved
 
He seems like a pretty tight player... since he re-raised preflop and post flop, i would think he'd be holding jacks or better.... best case scenario you're looking at is that he's holding AK as well and you chop. I think you fold this hand to his turn bet.

Michael Davis 02-14-2005 11:34 AM

Re: Calling down AKs unimproved
 
Folding the turn would be terrible. What are his opponent's most likely holdings, and how big is the pot?

-Michael

Milky 02-14-2005 11:40 AM

Re: Calling down AKs unimproved
 
He didn't cap pre-flop. Hero 3-bet, villian called.


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