tough river decision
 

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***** Hand History for Game 2724206108 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:15801995 Level:2 Blinds (10/20) - Friday, September 16, 22:21:16 EDT 2005
Table Happy Hour $10,000 Guaranteed(455510) Table #2 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: slick222 ( $485 )
Seat 2: tensor12 ( $945 )
Seat 3: acceptable ( $1625 )
Seat 4: ak69mike ( $1570 )
Seat 5: chipsp3w3r1 ( $950 )
Seat 6: morpizinc ( $1365 )
Seat 7: ladbrady ( $860 )
Seat 8: MasterZon ( $1110 )
Seat 9: darrenjp ( $1090 )
Trny:15801995 Level:2
Blinds (10/20)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to chipsp3w3r1 [ 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
morpizinc folds.
ladbrady folds.
MasterZon calls [20].
darrenjp folds.
slick222 calls [20].
tensor12 folds.
acceptable folds.
ak69mike calls [10].
chipsp3w3r1 checks.


** Dealing Flop ** [ 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
ak69mike checks.
chipsp3w3r1 bets [40].
MasterZon folds.
slick222 folds.
ak69mike calls [40].


** Dealing Turn ** [ 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
ak69mike checks.
chipsp3w3r1 bets [125].
ak69mike calls [125].


** Dealing River ** [ A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
ak69mike checks.
chipsp3w3r1 bets [200].
ak69mike is all in [1385]

what now?

Re: tough river decision
 

Fold, he has to have you beat. Most likely with a flush.

Re: tough river decision
 

It's hard to imagine what he has here, I think you would have heard from a flush a different way than villain played his hand. Then again I don't see someone playing a worse hand in this manner. Im changing my reply to say that I CALL and wonder what the hell happened. You've just got too much invested and a hand that could be good vs this guy who played his hand very weirdly. Meh.

Re: tough river decision
 

well he shouldn't call because he has 'too much invested' the pot stayed decently small, and he'd still hve 30BB's if he folds...


villain probably figures the A is a scare card.. but i can't really see him playing A6/A4 this way, and trtying a checkraise on the river w/ a flush doesn't sound right..

this looks like a bluff, i'd probably call then second guess myself when he shows a crappy A6.

Re: tough river decision
 

Well by too much invested I mean hes getting great odds to call and while hed still have a playable stack, I'll usually err towards trying to increase my chips if the situation is close, I do think this is a call though just because no hand that beats 2 pair makes sense, but I agree he was probably shown a6.

Re: tough river decision
 

its really hard to put the villian on a hand here. I would have trouble folding this, but it's probably the right move. Villian probably got cute w/ a flush or rivered aces up.

i would also bet more on the flop. probably the pot or 3/4ths the pot..

Re: tough river decision
 

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converter not working.... no read, early in tourney.

***** Hand History for Game 2724206108 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:15801995 Level:2 Blinds (10/20) - Friday, September 16, 22:21:16 EDT 2005
Table Happy Hour $10,000 Guaranteed(455510) Table #2 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: slick222 ( $485 )
Seat 2: tensor12 ( $945 )
Seat 3: acceptable ( $1625 )
Seat 4: ak69mike ( $1570 )
Seat 5: chipsp3w3r1 ( $950 )
Seat 6: morpizinc ( $1365 )
Seat 7: ladbrady ( $860 )
Seat 8: MasterZon ( $1110 )
Seat 9: darrenjp ( $1090 )
Trny:15801995 Level:2
Blinds (10/20)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to chipsp3w3r1 [ 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
morpizinc folds.
ladbrady folds.
MasterZon calls [20].
darrenjp folds.
slick222 calls [20].
tensor12 folds.
acceptable folds.
ak69mike calls [10].
chipsp3w3r1 checks.


** Dealing Flop ** [ 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
ak69mike checks.
chipsp3w3r1 bets [40].
MasterZon folds.
slick222 folds.
ak69mike calls [40].


** Dealing Turn ** [ 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
ak69mike checks.
chipsp3w3r1 bets [125].
ak69mike calls [125].


** Dealing River ** [ A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
ak69mike checks.
chipsp3w3r1 bets [200].
ak69mike is all in [1385]

what now?

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I have a hard time folding on the river there personally. I guess it depends on my feel for the caliber of play in that thing. Seems early so the other guy could be an idiot.

But you deserve it Gavin. That's a very weak bet on a very draw heavy flop. If he did draw out, its your own fault. For shame.

Re: tough river decision
 

I wouldn't consider it "draw heavy." The only real draw is the flush draw. I dont' think 57 is a real consideration here.

Re: tough river decision
 

Don't forget 35. In an unraised pot? People play any two in the SB. Early on, I think you underbet that flop fo sho.

Re: tough river decision
 

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Don't forget 35. In an unraised pot? People play any two in the SB. Early on, I think you underbet that flop fo sho.

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Why are you taking the SB into account so much?? This is a bit of results oriented thinking since he's the one who called. Also, if someone has a K, which is semi-likely, they're most likely going to raise. I like the weak lead on the flop personally, though I don't always do it.