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12-06-2005 11:46 AM

Help settle an argument I had with opponents
 
Deep in a toruney and I have about 50% more chips than my opponent. I raise 3xBB against him from SB (for the millionth time) with AJ. He calls.

Flop is KK5.

Now, here has been his betting pattern from previous hands: he bets flop if checked to, folds if I bet the flop.

So, let's assume that I know what cards he has (TOP Fundamental Theroem stuff). Say I know he has T3o. Isn't it correct that I check to induce a bluff?

That's what I did, but then he and another guy called me an idiot when he hit a T on the turn.

boedeker 12-06-2005 11:48 AM

Re: Help settle an argument I had with opponents
 
arnt you happy he hit the ten on the turn drawing dead?

12-06-2005 11:50 AM

Re: Help settle an argument I had with opponents
 
Oops. I edited it. Supposed to be KK5.

12-06-2005 11:55 AM

Re: Help settle an argument I had with opponents
 
Did he bet?

boedeker 12-06-2005 11:59 AM

Re: Help settle an argument I had with opponents
 
he didnt bet.

12-06-2005 11:59 AM

Re: Help settle an argument I had with opponents
 
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Did he bet?

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Yeah.

boedeker 12-06-2005 12:02 PM

Re: Help settle an argument I had with opponents
 
wait so if he bet how did he se the turn?

12-06-2005 12:18 PM

Re: Help settle an argument I had with opponents
 
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wait so if he bet how did he se the turn?

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He bet flop. I called.

12-06-2005 12:19 PM

Re: Help settle an argument I had with opponents
 
I think if you make a move like this, you have to protect your hand. When your "best" hand is A-high, you have to protect it with a flop raise. The check is fine to induce the bluff, but you have to push him out of the pot then. If you had KJ instead, you could check/call to the river to your heart's content.

12-06-2005 12:21 PM

Re: Help settle an argument I had with opponents
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think if you make a move like this, you have to protect your hand. When your "best" hand is A-high, you have to protect it with a flop raise. The check is fine to induce the bluff, but you have to push him out of the pot then. If you had KJ instead, you could check/call to the river to your heart's content.

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But if you know your opponent's hand is ten high on the flop, you would still want to protect your hand?


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