Re: Ooops I missed. Line check?
 

On the river are you presenting a check-raise bluff then? I can see a lag calling that w a strong 9 but it's an edgy play imo.

I guess on the turn you don't put him on a str8 or 2 pair as he would likely raise fearing you're betting into a draw, no?

Okay, I think I like... maybe like very much.

Re: Ooops I missed. Line check?
 

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You don't fire a 2nd shot against LAGs who call with pretty well any two on the flop when they have position?

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Of course I do. This specific circumstance however, I don't like. The fact that he's LAG would make me less inclined to bet here- I don't think he'll be pushed off a better hand often enough (AKA a pair). I like making informed bluff/semi bluffs better than uninformed ones. It just seems here that you are bluffing with no real information, and aren't really representing anything specific.

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I like making informed bluff/semi bluffs better than uninformed ones. It just seems here that you are bluffing with no real information, and aren't really representing anything specific.

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True.

Good points.

Regards,
Woodguy

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Since you posted this, he probably had K Q

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Actually, he doubled me up with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I liked my read, since he was aggro, but the play was very thin, so I thought I'd post it.

Got lucky.

Regards,
Woodguy

Re: Ooops I missed. Line check?
 

Post flop through turn, he's either calling with total monster or weak holdings. If he does not improve on the river, he has to fold. If he does improve he has to call.

IMO, very well done. A perfectly timed play against the perfect vill. You committed to the hand and followed through.

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I believe, his failure to act (just call) on turn, is a tremendous indicator of strength.

Re: Ooops I missed. Line check?
 

Very read dependently, I respectfully disagree. I like to play this way against a lag vill with a flopped two pair. I get paid off to river and if vill improves at all I get allin.

Conversely, if I am sitting in villain's seat, I will call down your bets if I posses a strong hand, raise you hard on turn with nothing or vulnerable hand that I think is beating you.

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Hello All,

Sorry about the format.

HIM was being really LAGGY earlier and hammered some flops and played big hands well and aggressive.

Was a bit of a calling station.

BB was sitting out, and I have protected his blinds about 8/10 times.

I made a 2 barrell bluff/semi-bluff, then hit the river.

How's my line?

Hand #10415937-91 at Tue830pmWS1-012 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
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Started at 20/Dec/05 21:54:28

slob711 is at seat 0 with 5575.
dirtymott is at seat 1 with 0 (sitting out).
ME with 5270.
SaucerHD is at seat 3 with 1630.
pops11 is at seat 5 with 1120.
JC1010 is at seat 6 with 5380.
zmansher is at seat 7 with 1525.
HIM at seat 8 with 10340.
JML2 is at seat 9 with 8360.
The button is at seat 1.

ME posts the small blind of 50.
SaucerHD posts the big blind of 100.

slob711: -- --
ME: Jh Ac
SaucerHD: -- --
pops11: -- --
JC1010: -- --
zmansher: -- --
HIM: -- --
JML2: -- --

Pre-flop:

pops11 folds. JC1010 folds. zmansher folds.
HIM calls. JML2 folds. slob711 folds.
ME calls. SaucerHD folds.

Flop (board: 6d 9h 4d):

ME bets 250. HIM calls.

Turn (board: 6d 9h 4d Tc):

ME bets 500. HIM calls.

River (board: 6d 9h 4d Tc Jc):

ME checks. HIM bets 1800. ME goes all-in for 4420.

I think I'm ahead......thoughts?

Regards,
Woodguy

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I don't understand why you didn't raise PF. You know you're pretty much going to be HU, why don't you rep a strong hand (which you have)? I think this would have also given your later bets more credibility.

I haven't looked at any replies yet, but this smells to me like HIM slow played the crap out of a set. Why would he call you down and then bet like that?

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The river was the Jc so he didn't have KcJc, sir. Are you fibbing?

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The river was the Jc so he didn't have KcJc, sir. Are you fibbing?

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Good catch. He had spades.

Hand #10415937-91 so you can look it up, I'm not lying.

Regards,
Woodguy