Put to the test on the river
 

$100 PL Omaha Hi/Lo
Hero ($142.50)
Villain ($120.55) (49.1 VPIP, 0 PFR, and 1.44 AF-Tot over 57 hands)

Hero is in CO with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 limpers, hero calls, button folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (Pot $6, 6 players)
Villain bets $2, 1 caller, Hero raises $13.70, villain calls, caller folds.

Turn: K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (Pot $33.65. 2 players)
villain checks, Hero bets $33.65, villain calls.

River: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (Pot $100.95, 2 players)
Villain bets $72.20 and is all-in, Hero curses his luck and...

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Hero curses his luck and...

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calls, and wonders if he played the turn correctly.

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calls, and wonders if he played the turn correctly.

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Hmmm, so you're wondering if it's better to check it through on the turn and then call any potential river bet? I honestly had not considered that option. When the flush card hit on the turn and he checked it to me, I figured I'm most likely either 1) quartering another A2 or 2) chopping against a flush. In the unlikely scenerio that he has an A2 with diamonds, well I'll have to take my lumps.

With 1 and 2 being the most likely scenerios, I decided I wanted to squeeze him as much as possible. If I'm quartering him, I want as much of his chips in the pot as possible. If he has anything other than the nut-flush, I'm hoping my bet will squeeze him enough to fold so I can hog the whole pot.

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call, feeling confident he played the turn fine.

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WELCOME BACK! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Hero curses his luck and ... calls.

I like the turn bet. My guess at his hand in order or likelihood:
1) A2 + something that doesn't beat you for the high
2) Flush and he now could be free rolling to counterfeit you
3) A2 of diamonds in which case you take your lumps
4) Set, 2 pair, or other garbage.

I think that 2 is likely but 1 is much more likely so I like the bet.

On the river you now know that he wasn't drawing at the nut flush and you are getting better then 3:1 on your money so I call.

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Is that guy humping faster now, since you've returned?

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There is no one correct answer for how to play this hand. The truth is it’s a close decision dependent on table conditions, opponents propensity to fold/bluff, and your image.

Argument for checking
Checking the turn will often get worse hands to lead out on the river – hands that would fold to a bet now – like set/twopair or A2 with worse high. (btw, this is how you take money from overaggro players like AirHumpy [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] )

And it will lose you less when you are behind to A2 with diamonds.

Argument for betting
Balanced against that is a) how often a better hand will fold. But A2 with a weak flush will not be folding here (witness that many are suggesting that you call the river with A2 with worse than a weak flush), so that will be pretty rare. And b) how often a worse hand will call – but you are pretty much hoping that A2 with a worse high than a straight will call and the only possible hand there might be A2+set.

In truth you probably should be taking both these lines to mix up your game

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Do you know I know you're gay? Because you time the thrust frequency of other guys' air-humping.

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Hero curses his luck and ... calls.

I like the turn bet. My guess at his hand in order or likelihood:
1) A2 + something that doesn't beat you for the high
2) Flush and he now could be free rolling to counterfeit you

I think that 2 is likely but 1 is much more likely so I like the bet.

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How often would you pot it on the river with something like A2 with top pair on that board if your opponent checked the turn?

How often would you fold if your opponent potted the turn on that board with that same hand?

(I'm not trying to make a point, i'm curious as to what your actual answer would be)

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