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golfcchs 10-19-2005 12:06 AM

(11) AK all parts of hand not really sure on
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t1050)
MP1 (t435)
MP2 (t920)
MP3 (t740)
CO (t925)
Button (t760)
SB (t770)
Hero (t800)
UTG (t800)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t75</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t175</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls t100.

Flop: (t372.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises all in</font>, Hero calls t315.

Turn: (t937.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t937.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t937.50

So I really dont know if any or all of the plays I made on this hand are correct. First of all what do you do on the fold? Do you call, or rerais, and if so how much? Then on the folp do you continue bet, and if so is it a push or some other bet? Lastly the call and the reraise I was getting 4 to 1 and I strongly felt MP3 had mid or low pp. Do you like the call, or do you fold? Thanks in advance for the help.

JP Rocks 10-19-2005 12:36 AM

Re: (11) AK all parts of hand not really sure on
 
With only 2 left in, and you being out of position, you should have just called the t75 bet preflop. That would leave the pot at around t160, in which case a continuation bet of 50-75% of the pot wouldnt commit you to the pot.

If I were to make that mistake, I would check/fold this flop because I do not want to donk off my chips here. I dont like the Cbet, and I'm not to keen for an open push here either.

golfcchs 10-19-2005 01:17 AM

Re: (11) AK all parts of hand not really sure on
 
so you dont like a reraise pre flop when this is an 11 and I could easily have the best hand by a long run.

zambonidrivr 10-19-2005 11:39 AM

Re: (11) AK all parts of hand not really sure on
 
according to his response, no he doesn't. i tend to agree, and that goes for $10's -$100's

unfrgvn 10-19-2005 11:51 AM

Re: (11) AK all parts of hand not really sure on
 
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so you dont like a reraise pre flop when this is an 11 and I could easily have the best hand by a long run.

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I only like a reraise that is designed to fold the villian. $100 is not enough. So I would either make it $250 or smooth call, and being this is one of the first 10 hands of the SNG I would call $75 and get away from flops I don't like. When villian calls the $100, what hands do you put him on? I personally think a mid pair would not call your raise, he is either going to go all in or fold. So he either has a big pocket pair or AK, maybe AQ. At an $11 AJ is probably not out of the question, but that would make villian pretty bad.
I think his reraise all in is in response to your CBET on a paired flop. Almost no one gives you credit for the trips when you lead at this flop and he may have been hoping you would fold. I think the call of his reraise is correct. I don't like the pre flop raise or the CBET, but once you are here I think you are committed.

JP Rocks 10-19-2005 07:44 PM

Re: (11) AK all parts of hand not really sure on
 
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so you dont like a reraise pre flop when this is an 11 and I could easily have the best hand by a long run.

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Like the other guy says, a reraise here should be trying to win the pot now, not trying to build a pot. My advice is to avoid trying to building a large pot preflop early in a tournament with AK.


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