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ChuckNorris 09-01-2005 12:20 AM

Jacks ITM
 
Is there anything I should do differently? I know you're gonna tell me to push preflop, which is cool, but since I didn't, how's my play otherwise?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (3 handed) converter

BB (t4225)
Button (t1780)
Hero (t3995)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1100</font>, BB calls t700.

Flop: (t2200) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1200</font>, BB calls t1200.

Turn: (t4600) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero pushes</font>, BB calls t1695.

River: (t6295) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t6295

results in white: <font color="white">they had Qs6s </font>

mlagoo 09-01-2005 12:26 AM

Re: Jacks ITM
 
push preflop, push the flop, dont wait until the freakin ace falls to push...

looks like you got greedy with a big pocket pair..

ChuckNorris 09-01-2005 12:28 AM

Re: Jacks ITM
 
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push preflop, push the flop, dont wait until the freakin ace falls to push...

looks like you got greedy with a big pocket pair..

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Why not let villain raise me with crap or make the mistake of calling with tempting but not good enough odds?

the_joker 09-01-2005 12:29 AM

Re: Jacks ITM
 
I'd check and fold after your flop bet was called. A nice bluff on the turn, but I don't think you have too much fold equity.

mlagoo 09-01-2005 12:31 AM

Re: Jacks ITM
 
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push preflop, push the flop, dont wait until the freakin ace falls to push...

looks like you got greedy with a big pocket pair..

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Why not let villain raise me with crap or make the mistake of calling with tempting but not good enough odds?

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because the blinds are big enough that playing postflop poker is no longer necessary.

lorinda 09-01-2005 12:31 AM

Re: Jacks ITM
 
I might try to check raise this flop, check/check is not total disaster (Unless an ace or king falls) and a check raise might win me some chips when I'm actually in front.

Of course, I wouldn't be in this position.. but you know that anyway [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Lori

ChuckNorris 09-01-2005 12:37 AM

Re: Jacks ITM
 
C/R does sound like a nice idea. I just almost never do it unless I am the one who called the raise preflop. People love to push with A-highs and stuff like that once ITM / HUP though, so it might be a good idea even with no specific reads.

I'm not entirely convinced of the superiority of just pushing every time you have ~10BB. Not saying that I know better, but I like to play flops from time to time with good hands against bad players.

durron597 09-01-2005 01:43 AM

Re: Jacks ITM
 
Every other raise should be a push, making the smaller raise with your big pairs is just suspicious.

ChuckNorris 09-02-2005 01:59 AM

Re: Jacks ITM
 
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Every other raise should be a push, making the smaller raise with your big pairs is just suspicious.

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I know that, and I only make the smaller raises if that has been my standard raise in the previous hands. For example, if the blinds have just gotten bigger when I'm dealt JJ.

MegaBet 09-02-2005 03:19 AM

Re: Jacks ITM
 
Push preflop. You are giving the guy pot odds to draw out on you, and that's precisely what he did.


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