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MichaelOar 12-06-2005 03:04 AM

20/40 online hand
 
I've played exactly zero hands in two orbits since I sat down.
I pick up AhQh UTG and raise. MP guy cold calls, button, a LAGGY player 3-bets. We both call.

Flop is Qs 7h 4c

I check, MP checks, button bets, I raise, MP folds button 3-bets and I just call.

Turn is 5h. I check-call.

River is 9d. I check-call.

Michael

hobbsmann 12-06-2005 03:12 AM

Re: 20/40 online hand
 
perfect. There is no way I fold TPTK to a LAG and without a maniac read I think this is the right amount of bets going in giving the preflop and flop action.

flawless_victory 12-06-2005 03:53 AM

Re: 20/40 online hand
 
4bet preflop
4bet flop

BigEndian 12-06-2005 09:49 AM

Re: 20/40 online hand
 
It doesn't look like you thought he was so laggy that his 3-bets were out of line. If that's the case then it looks fine to me. Otherwise I make it 4-bets preflop.

Same thing applies post flop. It looks like you thought he could raise with TT and would keep driving at it but giving him more action would make him get away from the hand. Or did you think he had a perfectly legit hand? If I don't raise anywhere, I would donk the turn or river planning on calling any raise depending on the player.

- Jim

12-06-2005 09:57 AM

Re: 20/40 online hand
 
that's exactly the reason i don't think it's perfect. it requires more than a two orbit read to know whether this guy autobets every street, no? since we're OOP, i'd try to take the initiative somewhere.

12-06-2005 11:13 AM

Re: 20/40 online hand
 
But where would you take the initiative?
Check-raise the turn? Maybe he folds with a hand that he had bluffed otherwise. Or maybe he 3-bets, what then?
Donk-bet somewhere? Maybe he folds while otherwise he would have bluffed.

MichaelOar 12-06-2005 11:55 AM

Re: 20/40 online hand
 
I think capping preflop out of position with AQ is awful.

If I think I'm ahead on the flop, I think that calling the 3-bet and check-raising the turn is much better than capping the flop. With the board, I think it's very unlikely that the button would check behind me on the turn.

I considered check-raising the turn, but I didn't, as I figured that the button either reraises me (in which case I'm gonna make two crying calls) or mucks his bluff.

I kinda like the idea of donking the river. The pot pretty big at this point, though, so I figure a bluff bet by the button is almost automatic if I check.

I'm still not sure if I was too cautious here. I just feel like getting after getting 3-bet twice in row, my TPTK shrinks up a little, and it is probably prudent to take my foot of the gas a little bit.

Thanks,

Michael


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