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Greg J 12-26-2005 12:51 AM

Fun with Paradise nano monkeys
 
My grandfather dabbles with ~$15 in Paradise playing the nano .02/.04 LHE and asks me to make him a little money. I did -- got dealt QQ twice in a row (RIGGED!!!!111).

This hand was actually kind of interesting:

I get Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG+1
One call the me and I raise. I get 5 (yes five) cold callers, SB 3 bets, BB and UTG cold call, I cap, all call.

9 to the flop for 36 SBs:

A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (RIGGED!!!!!111)

SB leads, 7 callers (including me).

Turn (A lot of bets):

7:brick:

Same thing happens.

River (some sick amount of bbs):

2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB bets again, 2 callers to me. What do you do here?

12-26-2005 12:54 AM

Re: Fun with Paradise nano monkeys
 
Be upset when someone cold called with K2o and wins the pot?

marchron 12-26-2005 01:05 AM

Re: Fun with Paradise nano monkeys
 
Raise. It's getting capped anyway, so just hold on to your butt and hope nobody's holding K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Edit . . . er, if by "same thing" you mean SB leads and everyone calls (i.e. no more psycho-aggression). Then call and go for overcalls. I doubt anyone would call two cold with such an obvious strong hand out there.

Greg J 12-26-2005 01:07 AM

Re: Fun with Paradise nano monkeys
 
What makes you think the river is getting capped?

marchron 12-26-2005 01:12 AM

Re: Fun with Paradise nano monkeys
 
See edit.

bozlax 12-26-2005 01:12 AM

Re: Fun with Paradise nano monkeys
 
[ QUOTE ]
What makes you think the river is getting capped?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah. No reason to raise, you'll be folding worse hands and getting 3-bet by better ones. Call as many bets as you have to to see a showdown, and hope the king stayed home.

AlmightyJay 12-26-2005 01:18 AM

Re: Fun with Paradise nano monkeys
 
[ QUOTE ]
My grandfather dabbles with ~$15 in Paradise playing the nano .02/.04 LHE and asks me to make him a little money. I did -- got dealt QQ twice in a row (RIGGED!!!!111).

This hand was actually kind of interesting:

I get Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG+1
One call the me and I raise. I get 5 (yes five) cold callers, SB 3 bets, BB and UTG cold call, I cap, all call.

9 to the flop for 36 SBs:

A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (RIGGED!!!!!111)

SB leads, 7 callers (including me).

Turn (A lot of bets):

7:brick:

Same thing happens.

River (some sick amount of bbs):

2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB bets again, 2 callers to me. What do you do here?

[/ QUOTE ]

The more I think about this, the more I like a raise. SB could have a lot of hands here that don't include the K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], and there's a lot of dead money going into the pot. I think a raise is +EV here. You're probably beat a lot, but the times you aren't, a raise is huge.

EDIT: I somehow misread the turn action and thought you were last to act on the river. With three more players behind you, I'd much rather call. But basically for the same reason - the overcalls you're going to get should more than make up for the times you're behind.

12-26-2005 01:18 AM

Re: Fun with Paradise nano monkeys
 
raise, and type in yer chatbox, "I hope noone has the j[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]!!11"

ok, um, seriously, how can we put people on hands at this level? I guess we're getting like 3000:1 to call, so I think we're good here .033% of the time. overcalls is good to encourage lots of 2nd pair, bottom two, etc. to call.

Greg J 12-26-2005 01:24 AM

Re: Fun with Paradise nano monkeys
 
I actually have four potential callers behind me (8 people still in the hand).

AlmightyJay 12-26-2005 01:25 AM

Re: Fun with Paradise nano monkeys
 
God I'm tired. I need to go to bed.


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