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imported_leader 12-20-2005 08:38 PM

3/6: Call-CR Blind defense with AA
 
MP: 20/10 over 65 hands no real read

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls with the intention of CR almost any flop.

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Flop: (4.33 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (4.16 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP calls.

River: (10.16 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets with the intention of calling a raise</font>

pokergrader 12-20-2005 08:46 PM

Re: 3/6: Call-CR Blind defense with AA
 
Looks like 99-AA, and you are a 80/20 favorite against that range. I like it.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn over A2s or AT here from time to time, but I think it is much more likely he has an overpair or set.

kross 12-20-2005 08:50 PM

Re: 3/6: Call-CR Blind defense with AA
 
The turn is the tricky spot. Since you slow-played the AA preflop, your flop C/R probably tells him you have a T, so he may think his AT/JJ-KK are the nuts. So it's hard to interpret the meaning of his turn raise. So overall, the 3-bet is probably okay, not sure.

If he raises the river after all that previous action, you still think your 1-pair is good? Granted, folding for one bet in this big pot with aces sucks, so I'm not sure what I would do if he raised the river, but can calling a raise be automatic?

gehrig 12-20-2005 08:54 PM

Re: 3/6: Call-CR Blind defense with AA
 
good

AA is the second nuts here

kross 12-20-2005 08:58 PM

Re: 3/6: Call-CR Blind defense with AA
 
I think the turn if fine, I'm just wondering if we still like our hand if villain then raises the river. After the turn action, I think our hand is good. If he raises the river, he would have to have exactly 99, nothing else makes sense. So I guess we have to pay off.

gehrig 12-20-2005 08:59 PM

Re: 3/6: Call-CR Blind defense with AA
 
if villain raises the river i dont like AA but youre getting huge odds to call

12-20-2005 09:49 PM

Re: 3/6: Call-CR Blind defense with AA
 
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AA is the second nuts here

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AA is behind 55, TT, 33, 44, 99, T5, T3, T4, T9, 53, 54, 95, 43, 94, 93, and A2. So it's actually the 17th nuts by my count.

I like post-flop here, and I guess I'll keep my pre-flop thoughts to myself.

Edit: And 76, so it's the 18th nuts.

imported_leader 12-21-2005 12:01 AM

Re: 3/6: Call-CR Blind defense with AA
 
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AA is the second nuts here

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AA is behind 55, TT, 33, 44, 99, T5, T3, T4, T9, 53, 54, 95, 43, 94, 93, and A2. So it's actually the 17th nuts by my count.

I like post-flop here, and I guess I'll keep my pre-flop thoughts to myself.

Edit: And 76, so it's the 18th nuts.

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Only one hand on that list is a realistic hand for villain. TT. As for preflop, there's a thread with extensive discussion about the call-cr blind defense method.

Redd 12-21-2005 12:11 AM

Re: 3/6: Call-CR Blind defense with AA
 
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good

AA is the second nuts here

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???

AA is behind 55, TT, 33, 44, 99, T5, T3, T4, T9, 53, 54, 95, 43, 94, 93, and A2. So it's actually the 17th nuts by my count.

I like post-flop here, and I guess I'll keep my pre-flop thoughts to myself.

Edit: And 76, so it's the 18th nuts.

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Only one hand on that list is a realistic hand for villain. TT. As for preflop, there's a thread with extensive discussion about the call-cr blind defense method.

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Doing this with AA is miles away from doing it with AK. IMO You give up tons of value by not getting bets into the pot.

imported_leader 12-21-2005 12:14 AM

Re: 3/6: Call-CR Blind defense with AA
 
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Doing this with AA is miles away from doing it with AK. IMO You give up tons of value by not getting bets into the pot.

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This exact thing was already discussed in the other thread.


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