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tigerite 11-30-2005 08:38 PM

$109 50/100, BB call/fold
 
Reads: SB has been been playing pretty solid poker, he's certainly not a donk. It's been very unusual to get first into a pot, as is usually the case at these things.

Sorry, I forgot to mention, this is the last hand of 50/100. The next hand we start at 75/150.

Button: 580 Chips
SB: 688 Chips
<font color="red">Hero: 1085 Chips</font>
UTG: 1644 Chips
UTG+1: 765 Chips
MP1: 2132 Chips
CO: 3106 Chips

Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Blinds are 50/100

PreFlop
<font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="blue">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="blue">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="blue">CO folds</font>, <font color="blue">Button folds</font>
SB is All-In

Hero ?

11-30-2005 08:44 PM

Re: $109 50/100, BB call/fold
 
i fold, but what do i know...

tigerite 11-30-2005 08:47 PM

Re: $109 50/100, BB call/fold
 
I forgot to mention it's the last hand of 50/100 and the very next hand is 75/150. I've added that to the post.

bigt439 11-30-2005 09:25 PM

Re: $109 50/100, BB call/fold
 
There are times when calling this is definitely correct and times where it's horrible. You've got a better read than any of us and I know you know how to translate that into SNGPT ranges. That's all you need.

45suited 11-30-2005 09:29 PM

Re: $109 50/100, BB call/fold
 
[ QUOTE ]
Reads: SB has been been playing pretty solid poker, he's certainly not a donk. It's been very unusual to get first into a pot, as is usually the case at these things.

Sorry, I forgot to mention, this is the last hand of 50/100. The next hand we start at 75/150.

Button: 580 Chips
SB: 688 Chips
<font color="red">Hero: 1085 Chips</font>
UTG: 1644 Chips
UTG+1: 765 Chips
MP1: 2132 Chips
CO: 3106 Chips

Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Blinds are 50/100

PreFlop
<font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="blue">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="blue">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="blue">CO folds</font>, <font color="blue">Button folds</font>
SB is All-In

Hero ?

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't think that I could call here unless the guy was a complete maniac. If you fold, you'll still have t910 after posting the SB next hand. Unless I'm missing something, this seems to be a pretty standard fold.

rbear 11-30-2005 09:30 PM

Re: $109 50/100, BB call/fold
 
I fold this pretty quickly. Is there something special about this hand, or this circumstance that I'm missing out on? Do tell.

tigerite 11-30-2005 09:32 PM

Re: $109 50/100, BB call/fold
 
[ QUOTE ]
There are times when calling this is definitely correct and times where it's horrible. You've got a better read than any of us and I know you know how to translate that into SNGPT ranges. That's all you need.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is what I was getting at. Let's put ourselves in SB's shoes for instance (and I believe he's a 2+2er, if not, well his game is pretty damn identical to it). What do we push here, especially considering the next hand blinds go up, meaning we have effectively 4BB?

ace_in_the_hole 11-30-2005 09:34 PM

Re: $109 50/100, BB call/fold
 
I fold this in a $55, not sure how much different the play is in 109's but looks like a fold to me. You are not crippled by the SB next hand so a new orbit to catch a bigger hand.

tigerite 11-30-2005 09:35 PM

Re: $109 50/100, BB call/fold
 
But what are we, as 2+2ers, pushing from the SB in this situation? It's got to be a bloody huge range, right? Also bear in mind that I hit the SB next hand, unlikely to be first into the pot especially if I have 900, and then have only 6BB myself. Yeah, most BBs will probably fold if I shove, but I seriously doubt I'll even get the opportunity.

rbear 11-30-2005 09:42 PM

Re: $109 50/100, BB call/fold
 
Getting handcuffed here makes sense, especially in better games. Thanks.


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