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Sightless 11-15-2005 01:55 AM

Do I have to call this river?
 
No reads on CO he is brand new to the table
BB is new as well but seems like a a decent player
I don't have to call this, right?
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds, CO calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (12.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero?

Aaron_ 11-15-2005 01:59 AM

Re: Do I have to call this river?
 
I wouldn't. That T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] may be the worse card in the deck that could have come for TP2K. With no read, I'll save a bet and get out.

11-15-2005 02:00 AM

Re: Do I have to call this river?
 
You only have $3 into the pot so far at the river, CO seems to show two pair, I say J10 or Q10. The river call is tough, youre not losing much and CO has shown strength on the river, I probably fold...

11-15-2005 02:03 AM

Re: Do I have to call this river?
 
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That T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] may be the worse card in the deck that could have come for TP2K.

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The T may have counterfeited villian's QJ.

MrWookie47 11-15-2005 02:04 AM

Re: Do I have to call this river?
 
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You only have $3 into the pot so far at the river, CO seems to show two pair, I say J10 or Q10. The river call is tough, youre not losing much and CO has shown strength on the river, I probably fold...

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This is bad, bad thinking on many levels. First of all, you're thinking in terms of $ instead of BB. Second, how much money hero has put into the pot at this point is completely irrelevant to making the most +EV decision on the river.

Sightless 11-15-2005 02:04 AM

Re: Do I have to call this river?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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That T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] may be the worse card in the deck that could have come for TP2K.

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The T may have counterfeited villian's QJ.

[/ QUOTE ]

Queens and Jacks are better than Queens and tens?

or have i missunderstood you

MrWookie47 11-15-2005 02:05 AM

Re: Do I have to call this river?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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That T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] may be the worse card in the deck that could have come for TP2K.

[/ QUOTE ]

The T may have counterfeited villian's QJ.

[/ QUOTE ]

Derf, huh? Q2 maybe. Not QJ.

11-15-2005 02:06 AM

Re: Do I have to call this river?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
That T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] may be the worse card in the deck that could have come for TP2K.

[/ QUOTE ]

The T may have counterfeited villian's QJ.

[/ QUOTE ]

Queens and Jacks are better than Queens and tens?

or have i missunderstood you

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[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
I thought you had Kings

11-15-2005 03:35 AM

Re: Do I have to call this river?
 
You're getting 13.5-1 on your call. You have to ask yourself if you think you'll have the best hand around 7% of the time. If you ended up in this spot 100 times, would you come across 7 donk-plays?

jaxUp 11-15-2005 03:41 AM

Re: Do I have to call this river?
 
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You're getting 13.5-1 on your call. You have to ask yourself if you think you'll have the best hand around 7% of the time. If you ended up in this spot 100 times, would you come across 7 donk-plays?

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and, of course, the answer is no


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